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Post by patty on May 29, 2019 7:17:57 GMT
Don’t fret quaysider, you seemed a lovely guy when we spoke in Stoke.. you were moored on a water point, I seem to recall 😀 rlmao - we were filling up with water on a water point I think you'll find... a daily occurance util people get used to sub-mariner showers and not over-flushing the toilet... THIS weeks guest are ex boaters (retired due to ill health) and it's going really well... relaxed, friendly and not expecting things to be the samme as one land...wait a minute... I COULD just have said "they're boaty peope".... that'd done it Hang on a minute ..you terrify guests into 'daily showers' or else...  |
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Post by patty on May 29, 2019 7:25:01 GMT
Whats their rush? Boating is a leisurely poodle down canals, stopping as and when the mood dictates or water needs getting etc... Bad temper will only wreck their day..bet they muttered on about you all day patty - you know better than that - for us grumpy old bastards it wouldn't wreck our day - it would MAKE our day.  oh yeah ...grumpy sweaty swear ole codgers... and theres me thinking pleasant genial....... takes off rose tinted specs....(should have gone...specsavers) |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 7:26:49 GMT
First come, first served and thus it has always been. I only get slightly irritated when a boater on the water point is using the hose to wash the boat down when people are waiting or they say things like "I may be some time as the washers only on pre wash at the moment". But it's a bit like annoyance that there's no space where you wish to moor ... all the other boats got there first, the annoyance should really be aimed at oneself for getting there at the wrong time. I recall pulling in for diesel at Newbury on K&A, just seconds after a wide beam did the same. It took absolutely ages for him to get his 350 litres of diesel (and apparently he wasn't full !). The best bit about waiting was knowing I didn't have to pay his bill Rog |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 7:36:36 GMT
It makes sense when all boats have similar sized tanks but when on the Thames on my barge if I am doing water I will always remove the hose and let someone else use it if they have a small tank. GRP cruisers specially. The time they save by not having to wait for my enormous tank to fill helps them have a better day because their aim is to spend as much time boating as possible (I assume). I'm in no rush at all and their little tanks fill up super quick anyway. I'm happy they are happy.
This doesn't work so well for larger boats so yes when on the cut unless someone has an obviously much smaller tank it is first come first served.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 7:43:19 GMT
I rarely pass a tap without topping up, that way it's a ten or fifteen minute job at worst.
I'd sooner work from a virtually full tank than a virtually empty one, but we don't have a washing machine, dishwasher, or guests who use water without a thought.
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Post by Mr Stabby on May 29, 2019 7:51:51 GMT
about an hour later, all 3 boats had filled and gone so we moved across and began to fill up... at which point a boat pulled in behind and asked "will you be long" - I said as long as it takes to fill the water tank... "how big is it?"... 500 litres - ish I replied... "500 litres?" - "why so big... ours is 300 and last us ages"... " cause we're a hotel and guests get through a lot of water"... "bloody hotel boats..." THEN another boat came along oppiste... holding his centre line and shouted across would we be long cause he wants water... - the other boat the interfered and shouted back "they'll be ages cause they've got a 500 - GALLON tank" as they're a hotel boat... at which point "mr angry" on the other boat started to fizz "they shouldn't be allowed to use "our taps" they should get water elsewhere ... If it is actually 500 litres then I wouldn't say that was particularly large anyway. My boat, which is only 42' has a 100 gallon tank which is circa 450 litres. |
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Post by JohnV on May 29, 2019 7:54:14 GMT
Sabina's tank is fairly big (about 1600 litres) but until recently it would take about 3 hours to fill from an ordinary water point due to the small air vents but now after modifications I can be away in only an hour and a half at the average tap  |
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Post by wellyftw on May 29, 2019 8:21:17 GMT
not totally on topic but relevant none the less, today I encountered "mr angry" at having to wait at the water point behind us and the boat waiting for us in Nantich... When we got to the only tap here, there were two boats breasted up AND another on on the service point waiting for them to Finnish filling... we pulled along (opposite side) and waited for a gap to move in... about an hour later, all 3 boats had filled and gone so we moved across and began to fill up... at which point a boat pulled in behind and asked "will you be long" - I said as long as it takes to fill the water tank... "how big is it?"... 500 litres - ish I replied... "500 litres?" - "why so big... ours is 300 and last us ages"... " cause we're a hotel and guests get through a lot of water"... "bloody hotel boats..." THEN another boat came along oppiste... holding his centre line and shouted across would we be long cause he wants water... - the other boat the interfered and shouted back "they'll be ages cause they've got a 500 - GALLON tank" as they're a hotel boat... at which point "mr angry" on the other boat started to fizz "they shouldn't be allowed to use "our taps" they should get water elsewhere ... ffs - at which point i had to explain to BOTH of them that as we pay at least twice their licence fee to operate AND bigger insurance premiums they could both whistle... I had half mind to wash the boat down too.. however, that wouldn't have been cricket so once full we pulled off thinking what incredibly rude people they were... It seems boaters "think" hotel boats are a nuisance and should not be allowed. Thats nice isn't it? twunts
Considering narrowboating is supposed to be a calm and peaceful lifestyle (or hobby) there is an unbelievable amount of angry, bitter tossers on the cut. The amount of boaters I've passed by who look like someone took a shit in their cereal is quite extraordinary. |
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Post by wellyftw on May 29, 2019 8:30:08 GMT
Don’t fret quaysider, you seemed a lovely guy when we spoke in Stoke.. you were moored on a water point, I seem to recall 😀 rlmao - we were filling up with water on a water point I think you'll find... a daily occurance util people get used to sub-mariner showers and not over-flushing the toilet... THIS weeks guest are ex boaters (retired due to ill health) and it's going really well... relaxed, friendly and not expecting things to be the samme as one land...wait a minute... I COULD just have said "they're boaty peope".... that'd done it Oh, just had a look at your website. Couldn't help but notice:
"We had a wonderful fist year with a few lovely guests to accompany us"
Now that might have been what you were getting up to but I suspect it's a typo.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 8:37:28 GMT
I think the frustration comes with deadlines. If you're on a schedule, frustrations can build to unreasonable levels. It's one of the reasons we like to get rid of the car as quickly as possible. We find when bridge hopping and car shuffling it becomes important where you are and where you are going, and consequently pressure and irritability sets in. Without the car we're just shuffling about unsure where we're going to be on any given day Rog |
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Post by Jim on May 29, 2019 8:45:02 GMT
not totally on topic but relevant none the less, today I encountered "mr angry" at having to wait at the water point behind us and the boat waiting for us in Nantich... When we got to the only tap here, there were two boats breasted up AND another on on the service point waiting for them to Finnish filling... we pulled along (opposite side) and waited for a gap to move in... about an hour later, all 3 boats had filled and gone so we moved across and began to fill up... at which point a boat pulled in behind and asked "will you be long" - I said as long as it takes to fill the water tank... "how big is it?"... 500 litres - ish I replied... "500 litres?" - "why so big... ours is 300 and last us ages"... " cause we're a hotel and guests get through a lot of water"... "bloody hotel boats..." THEN another boat came along oppiste... holding his centre line and shouted across would we be long cause he wants water... - the other boat the interfered and shouted back "they'll be ages cause they've got a 500 - GALLON tank" as they're a hotel boat... at which point "mr angry" on the other boat started to fizz "they shouldn't be allowed to use "our taps" they should get water elsewhere ... ffs - at which point i had to explain to BOTH of them that as we pay at least twice their licence fee to operate AND bigger insurance premiums they could both whistle... I had half mind to wash the boat down too.. however, that wouldn't have been cricket so once full we pulled off thinking what incredibly rude people they were...It seems boaters "think" hotel boats are a nuisance and should not be allowed. Thats nice isn't it? twunts So you contaminated the water point before going? |
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Post by kris on May 29, 2019 8:50:24 GMT
Whilst I completely understand why you would not have intervened I can say that I would have. The guy needed to be asked to calm down. In fact child or no child I would always, and have in the past, ask someone to stop swearing etc in such situations. To many people ignore bad behaviour, this can only lead to some people believing that it’s ok to carry on acting like an idiot. Obviously though you need to consider your own safety first. I tell my wife it’s best not to get involved, doesn’t always work though☹️. Exactly. I get it from my mother who was always challenging bad behaviour, typically dropping litter, cycling fast on the pavement past pedestrians etc. Even when she was in her 70s and 80s she would still challenge the local yoofs, most of whom were too gobsmacked to repost! Stems from years working in a youth club in the 60s and 70s, then becoming a magistrate and sending all the naughty ex- youth club yoofs to prison. So you inherited being an interfering old biddy body from your mum, where did you get being a condescending judgemental prick from? I think anybody would have told you to mind your own business? |
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Post by Telemachus on May 29, 2019 8:50:47 GMT
I think the frustration comes with deadlines. If you're on a schedule, frustrations can build to unreasonable levels. It's one of the reasons we like to get rid of the car as quickly as possible. We find when bridge hopping and car shuffling it becomes important where you are and where you are going, and consequently pressure and irritability sets in. Without the car we're just shuffling about unsure where we're going to be on any given day Rog Up to a point I’d agree, when we used to fly down from Aberdeen for the weekend, we had a schedule to be back in time to get the flight home, and missing the flight would be a big problem. Obviously we left a reasonable margin but on a couple of times we got stuck behind people going ridiculously slow who weren’t interested in letting us pass. Uncommon, but you remember the frustrating times! But apart from that, we get pleasure from being slick, expeditious and efficient. Not rushing, but just not faffing about wasting time, being inefficient and doing stupid things. Obviously we realise that there are beginners who don’t quite know what they are doing, and that is fine. We are especially tolerant of hire boaters who may well be on their first trip - but typically they are enthusiastic and have several crew - and are having fun! Which is great. It is the miserable old git private owners who sometimes seem to take pleasure in going as slow as possible, holding people up as much as possible on a point of principle, all the while reciting the mantra “you mustn’t hurry on the cut”. Tossers. |
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Post by wellyftw on May 29, 2019 9:03:36 GMT
Exactly. I get it from my mother who was always challenging bad behaviour, typically dropping litter, cycling fast on the pavement past pedestrians etc. Even when she was in her 70s and 80s she would still challenge the local yoofs, most of whom were too gobsmacked to repost! Stems from years working in a youth club in the 60s and 70s, then becoming a magistrate and sending all the naughty ex- youth club yoofs to prison. So you inherited being an interfering old biddy body from your mum, where did you get being a condescending judgemental prick from? I think anybody would have told you to mind your own business? I'd probably say that anyone being abusive, violent and/or rude in public makes it all of our business. You have no expectation of privacy when you're in public. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 9:16:12 GMT
On our way into Bugsworth we were behind a Heritage hire crew of four. Very slow progress, but the canal is so shallow it would have been virtually impossible to travel much faster, without making a damaging wash.
So we gave them space and travelled in tick over enjoying the views and our chat.
Despite giving them space, every lift/swing bridge seemed to take them by surprise, and Jane had jumped off and walked forward to work it for both of us before they realised it was there. Not a problem, everyone was having fun and enjoying the sun.
Just before Furness Vale a private boat appeared coming towards us, and as we passed he turned in the winding hole behind.
He very speedily caught us up, so he could not have been in tick over passing New Mills moored boats.
I pulled over to let him thunder past, despite the Heritage boat being in front of us still. Hate having a boat sat on our tail.
At the next swing bridge he nipped through as soon as the Heritage crew opened it (I hope on being invited) and disappeared into the distance.
We carried on behind the Heritage crew, only to find our friend was on his mooring at Furness Vale a couple of hundred yards further on. All that rushing about for nothing seemed ridiculous.
Still we all enjoy different aspects of boating.
Rog
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