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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 6, 2020 20:12:22 GMT
Mooring without a valid licence or registration is... err... inappropriate? as is your post.
CRT inappropriate mooring vs. EA licence dodgers ?? WTF ?
I just throw them in the same sack - Pisstakers Anonymous. Only now some have been named. Hooray!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 20:47:14 GMT
Maybe there is a private facebook group discussing pisstakers.
After all there is one discussing boaters believed to be involved in thieving from other boaters. This seems a bit dodgy to me and an open door for abuse but do facebook care about abuse?
Why the question mark when it is not a question?
They would be happy for kids to be tortured if it turns a buck for their money machine.
Scum.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2020 6:13:30 GMT
It seems to me quite likely this new position is aimed squarely at the London scene. Apart from most of the offences mentioned being common, there is a tidal creek in the vicinity of Barking (don't know what its called) which was recently the site of a sinking due to ignorance of the possible effects of tide.
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Post by JohnV on Feb 7, 2020 7:12:38 GMT
It seems to me quite likely this new position is aimed squarely at the London scene. Apart from most of the offences mentioned being common, there is a tidal creek in the vicinity of Barking (don't know what its called) which was recently the site of a sinking due to ignorance of the possible effects of tide. called Barking Creek ...... fairly recent (2001 ?) half tide barrier installed at Barking It's the mouth of the river Roding
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2020 7:43:58 GMT
It seems to me quite likely this new position is aimed squarely at the London scene. Apart from most of the offences mentioned being common, there is a tidal creek in the vicinity of Barking (don't know what its called) which was recently the site of a sinking due to ignorance of the possible effects of tide. fairly recent (2001 ?) Nope, last October.
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 7, 2020 7:55:43 GMT
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Post by JohnV on Feb 7, 2020 8:17:17 GMT
nope, the half tide barrier, not the sinking Was there for several years late 90's early 2000's plus another visit for a few weeks in 2005?. During that time can think of at least 3 sinkings ...... there were a lot of "project" boats there, and as normal with projects many were doomed. There were several semi derelict wharves where a little silver crossing palms, could find you a berth. The sailing barge Scone sank 3 times in a couple of different parts of the creek under 3 different owners (eventually was towed down to Benfleet Creek and stuck into a side channel where it remains a derelict to this day just opposite Benfleet railway station A lot of the creek has now been gentrified with housing replacing all the workshops, boatyard, scrapyards and the massive old Ice store left over from when Barking was home to the "Short Blues" and the biggest fishing fleet in the country, Also gone was the pub "The Smack" and one of the best cafes in the area
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 7, 2020 8:20:59 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2020 8:21:47 GMT
nope, the half tide barrier, not the sinking Was there for several years late 90's early 2000's plus another visit for a few weeks in 2005?. During that time can think of at least 3 sinkings ...... there were a lot of "project" boats there, and as normal with projects many were doomed. There were several semi derelict wharves where a little silver crossing palms, could find you a berth. The sailing barge Scone sank 3 times in a couple of different parts of the creek under 3 different owners (eventually was towed down to Benfleet Creek and stuck into a side channel where it remains a derelict to this day just opposite Benfleet railway station A lot of the creek has now been gentrified with housing replacing all the workshops, boatyard, scrapyards and the massive old Ice store left over from when Barking was home to the "Short Blues" and the biggest fishing fleet in the country, Also gone was the pub "The Smack" and one of the best cafes in the area Wow. Do you have any photos?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2020 8:30:05 GMT
That was one of the boats on the River Roding which is indeed tidal enough to sink you if you are not watching the ropes. I think that's EA water though not CRT.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2020 8:32:45 GMT
nope, the half tide barrier, not the sinking Was there for several years late 90's early 2000's plus another visit for a few weeks in 2005?. During that time can think of at least 3 sinkings ...... there were a lot of "project" boats there, and as normal with projects many were doomed. There were several semi derelict wharves where a little silver crossing palms, could find you a berth. The sailing barge Scone sank 3 times in a couple of different parts of the creek under 3 different owners (eventually was towed down to Benfleet Creek and stuck into a side channel where it remains a derelict to this day just opposite Benfleet railway station A lot of the creek has now been gentrified with housing replacing all the workshops, boatyard, scrapyards and the massive old Ice store left over from when Barking was home to the "Short Blues" and the biggest fishing fleet in the country, Also gone was the pub "The Smack" and one of the best cafes in the area Wow. Do you have any photos? I'd like to see them as well. I've been down there recently (by car) for a walk around there are loads and loads of bland flats now but still a few interesting boats about. The boat which sank was just upstream from the big Tesco, on the Roding itself. A bit grim around there but an interesting option to get away from CRT and still be in proximity of the big smoke. The Wetherspoon in Barking is called The Barking Dog. I had a little titter about that when I saw it.
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Post by JohnV on Feb 7, 2020 8:49:06 GMT
nope, the half tide barrier, not the sinking Was there for several years late 90's early 2000's plus another visit for a few weeks in 2005?. During that time can think of at least 3 sinkings ...... there were a lot of "project" boats there, and as normal with projects many were doomed. There were several semi derelict wharves where a little silver crossing palms, could find you a berth. The sailing barge Scone sank 3 times in a couple of different parts of the creek under 3 different owners (eventually was towed down to Benfleet Creek and stuck into a side channel where it remains a derelict to this day just opposite Benfleet railway station A lot of the creek has now been gentrified with housing replacing all the workshops, boatyard, scrapyards and the massive old Ice store left over from when Barking was home to the "Short Blues" and the biggest fishing fleet in the country, Also gone was the pub "The Smack" and one of the best cafes in the area Wow. Do you have any photos? possibly ..... I'll have to look ...... most of the photos I took at that time were of my rebuild not of the creek as such
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Post by TonyDunkley on Feb 7, 2020 16:35:14 GMT
"From Monday 10 February 2020, the new "Improper Mooring" process will be applied where a boat is moored in a way that affects safety"
This sentence from C&RT's Matthew Symond's Press Release not only sees his employer's achievements in hypocrisy soaring to new heights, but also begs the questions - what was the catalyst for introducing this "new" process at this particular juncture, and how does it differ from the Trust's old 'Improper Mooring' process which, presumably, was the one with which they themselves were conscientiously complying when they moved my commercial carrying company's 250 ton barge, "Selby Michael" from it's allocated mooring above Hazleford Lock and weir and left it below the weir throughout the last few months of the Trent's floods without bothering to re-use all it's mooring lines, or re-rigging the precautionary anti-vandal wire rope and bulldog grips from the ship's head to a shore bollard.
When it became known that "Selby Michael" was adrift in the Trent on the evening of Sunday 26 January 2020 the immediate safety of any craft in it's path, and even more importantly, the safety of anyone who could or might be aboard them, should have been foremost in the minds of everyone involved or potentially involved. With the notable exception of the ever unreliable and irresponsible navigation authority for this part of the river Trent, that is precisely what was foremost in the minds of all those who responded so promptly and capably to the emergency and succeeded in getting the barge under control and temporarily tied to a tree near Mill Bight in Newark Dyke.
Precisely what, you may ask, did the nation's leading purveyors of 'waterside wellbeing' contribute to ensuring that this serious threat to people's personal safety, and to their boats, was brought under control without delay ? The answer, . . absolutely SOD ALL ! The best they could do on the Sunday evening, with the barge getting ever closer to Newark by the minute, was a vague promise to come out and assess the situation on the following Monday morning, . . and now, two weeks on, we all get treated to this remarkable insight into the directing minds behind the Trust's failure to either grasp the seriousness of the situation on the evening of 26 January last, . . . or to act on it !
Is there, I wonder, any real prospect of the Government exercising some sort of control over the activities of the dangerous bunch of clowns presently running C&RT, and to whom they've given an apparently free hand to do as they will with most of our navigable inland waterways, . . . before they do actually succeed in maiming or killing some of the supposed recipients of their particular brand of "wellbeing" ?
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 7, 2020 16:43:35 GMT
Wow. Do you have any photos? Roding itself. There are 9 Roding villages. Off my memory I can get: Margaret Roding, White Roding, Abbess Roding, Berners Roding, Aythorpe Roding. White Roding is on what was the A414, one of my favourite stretches of road from Hatfield Heath to Chelmsford, been along it many times. And out that way there are the two Easters - Good Easter and High Easter. Lovely Essex countryside.
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Post by JohnV on Feb 7, 2020 17:59:44 GMT
Leaden Roding is another one naughtyfox
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