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Post by Clinton Cool on Nov 17, 2020 23:25:04 GMT
Now that it's established that people may choose their gender either permanently or day to day it got me thinking. First I think it's fair to say that this notion is established. Anyone who doesn't agree had better keep a low profile in life and certainly, wouldn't be successful if they applied for a job at the BBC.
I was wondering whether this freedom of self identity might extend beyond gender. For example, if a white person woke up one morning feeling that they were black would it be OK for them to self identify as a black person? Ok, their skin would still be white but the same scenario in the gender exchange doesn't seem to be too much of an issue. Longer term, if the person in question is convinced that they live inside the wrong coloured skin surely it's not beyond the scope of medical science to give people a colour change? After all, Michael Jackson managed it, ironically, not long after his song 'it don't matter if you're black or white'.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 6:40:33 GMT
Now that it's established that people may choose their gender either permanently or day to day it got me thinking. First I think it's fair to say that this notion is established. Anyone who doesn't agree had better keep a low profile in life and certainly, wouldn't be successful if they applied for a job at the BBC. I was wondering whether this freedom of self identity might extend beyond gender. For example, if a white person woke up one morning feeling that they were black would it be OK for them to self identify as a black person? Ok, their skin would still be white but the same scenario in the gender exchange doesn't seem to be too much of an issue. Longer term, if the person in question is convinced that they live inside the wrong coloured skin surely it's not beyond the scope of medical science to give people a colour change? After all, Michael Jackson managed it, ironically, not long after his song 'it don't matter if you're black or white'. Is this just a general comment or are you having problems being yourself? I'm currently self identifying as an eleven year old. I do not have gender or race identity issues but age is a massive problem and I think I have found a way around it. |
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Post by patty on Nov 18, 2020 7:23:37 GMT
I have never felt the need to identify to the world at large that I'm in the wrong body..
I'm a mix of girly and blokey in my outlook.. I wouldn't want to be a man..love my shoes/dresses n dancing. Equally love bit of DIY, crawling under sons van and generally getting rather grimy.
As to race colour...its the who we r inside thats important not the colour of our skin.
That leaves age. I'm more than capable of ignoring the decade I am supposed to be....I still scramble up trees, last year at granddaughters birthday had go on skateboard(never again) and mini scooter. Also went ice skating with t'other granddaughter(thank goodness for those solid penguin supports kids use)...I do not let age define me.
I suspect part of it is people who are not comfortable with themselves decide the reason is wrong gender/wrong race etc.
We were supposed to be having climbing wall birthday party this year for granddaughter...obv Covid says No..its maybe just as well as post my first experience last year I was kinda crippled up with pulled muscles and the thought of putting myself through that again was a bit daunting. I would have done it.
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 18, 2020 7:27:15 GMT
I think ricco is trying to appease his neighbours so they don't burn his house down.
"English pig!"
"No, I'm Welsh. Really!"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 7:58:15 GMT
Now that it's established that people may choose their gender either permanently or day to day it got me thinking. First I think it's fair to say that this notion is established. Anyone who doesn't agree had better keep a low profile in life and certainly, wouldn't be successful if they applied for a job at the BBC. I was wondering whether this freedom of self identity might extend beyond gender. For example, if a white person woke up one morning feeling that they were black would it be OK for them to self identify as a black person? Ok, their skin would still be white but the same scenario in the gender exchange doesn't seem to be too much of an issue. Longer term, if the person in question is convinced that they live inside the wrong coloured skin surely it's not beyond the scope of medical science to give people a colour change? After all, Michael Jackson managed it, ironically, not long after his song 'it don't matter if you're black or white'. I'm currently self identifying as an eleven year old. It took about 50 years to find me, much of that was going back to the things I liked doing before I was programmed by the hive.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 8:33:53 GMT
I appreciate the humour in your post, but you do seem to have something of a 'chip on your shoulder' about quite a few issues, including child welfare, mental health, and modern medicine. I am not a fan of Michael Jackson, but even I have read that he suffered from vitiligo (loss of skin pigment) as does one of my neices. I suspect it takes great mental strength to openly face a world inclined to point and stare at obvious differences but thankfully I have not had personal experience. I consider it wrong and unnecessary to ridicule those who are uncomfortable or less at ease 'in their own skin' ... including those poor unfortunates who feel the need to colour their hair  Rog |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 8:52:09 GMT
Michael Jackson is one of only two performers I have seen live. I like the music but the concert was crap.
The other was Black Sabbath (after Ozzy).
1992.
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Post by Isambard Kingdom Brunel on Nov 18, 2020 9:10:53 GMT
Michael Jackson is one of only two performers I have seen live. I like the music but the concert was crap. The other was Black Sabbath (after Ozzy). 1992. I suppose it is difficult getting into concerts on your own when you are still only eleven. Sadly you have missed most of the good ones when you were even younger, Queen, Status Quo, Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Fleetwood Mac.................................................................. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 9:19:18 GMT
Michael Jackson is one of only two performers I have seen live. I like the music but the concert was crap. The other was Black Sabbath (after Ozzy). 1992. Well I remember the time I saw Black Sabbath (with Ozzy). They weren't too Bad. I'd like to have seen Michael Jackson, but in the 80s I was workin' all day and night. PS Well not really, I was a lazy bugger even then. |
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 18, 2020 9:24:24 GMT
Now that it's established that people may choose their gender either permanently or day to day it got me thinking. First I think it's fair to say that this notion is established. Anyone who doesn't agree had better keep a low profile in life and certainly, wouldn't be successful if they applied for a job at the BBC. I was wondering whether this freedom of self identity might extend beyond gender. For example, if a white person woke up one morning feeling that they were black would it be OK for them to self identify as a black person? Ok, their skin would still be white but the same scenario in the gender exchange doesn't seem to be too much of an issue. Longer term, if the person in question is convinced that they live inside the wrong coloured skin surely it's not beyond the scope of medical science to give people a colour change? After all, Michael Jackson managed it, ironically, not long after his song 'it don't matter if you're black or white'. Yes the freedom to self-identify as something they are not does extend beyond gender. I know of someone who self-identifies as a super fit “my body is a temple and so I am immune from the virus” type, when the reality is far from that. |
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Post by patty on Nov 18, 2020 9:56:16 GMT
Now that it's established that people may choose their gender either permanently or day to day it got me thinking. First I think it's fair to say that this notion is established. Anyone who doesn't agree had better keep a low profile in life and certainly, wouldn't be successful if they applied for a job at the BBC. I was wondering whether this freedom of self identity might extend beyond gender. For example, if a white person woke up one morning feeling that they were black would it be OK for them to self identify as a black person? Ok, their skin would still be white but the same scenario in the gender exchange doesn't seem to be too much of an issue. Longer term, if the person in question is convinced that they live inside the wrong coloured skin surely it's not beyond the scope of medical science to give people a colour change? After all, Michael Jackson managed it, ironically, not long after his song 'it don't matter if you're black or white'. Yes the freedom to self-identify as something they are not does extend beyond gender. I know of someone who self-identifies as a super fit “my body is a temple and so I am immune from the virus” type, when the reality is far from that. I suspect there could be many thousands who 'self identify' as too fit for Coronageddon..... I think I'd like to be a tad fitter cos I huff n puff going up all these dam hills..... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 10:08:04 GMT
Just as an aside, my sister's bloods have now normalised after several months since contracting covid ... she has a further x ray due in a couple of weeks when we hope to discover her lungs have recovered also ... she certainly feels that will be the case. I have advised her that a diet of red wine and vaping is what she needs to remain healthy but she seems very sceptical Rog |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Nov 18, 2020 10:39:24 GMT
Just as an aside, my sister's bloods have now normalised after several months since contracting covid ... she has a further x ray due in a couple of weeks when we hope to discover her lungs have recovered also ... she certainly feels that will be the case. I have advised her that a diet of red wine and vaping is what she needs to remain healthy but she seems very sceptical Rog Aye well my previous 3 bottles a week is down to 2. The reason, didn't realise before I moved to Wales, minimum alcohol pricing applies. Labour administration, nanny state or fascists? Take your pick |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 10:42:08 GMT
, minimum alcohol pricing applies. Labour administration, nanny state or fascists? Take your pick Maybe it's crack dealers running the place attempting to knock out some of the competition. |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 18, 2020 10:46:11 GMT
I was wondering whether this freedom of self identity might extend beyond gender. For example, if a white person woke up one morning feeling that they were black would it be OK for them to self identify as a black person? Yes.  |
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