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Post by Isambard Kingdom Brunel on Apr 3, 2021 14:14:28 GMT
Sorry, just got serious news about dad.
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Post by kris on Apr 3, 2021 14:19:54 GMT
I was considering a substantial donation for me and dad, until the squabbling started again. How can anyone support folk who would sooner score points off one another than address the item in hand? Its is not an auspicious start, falling out even before the battle has commenced. The people on here aren’t in charge of this?
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Post by JohnV on Apr 3, 2021 14:23:18 GMT
I was considering a substantial donation for me and dad, until the squabbling started again. How can anyone support folk who would sooner score points off one another than address the item in hand? Its is not an auspicious start, falling out even before the battle has commenced. The people on here aren’t in charge of this? thank God
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Post by JohnV on Apr 3, 2021 14:25:27 GMT
Sorry, just got serious news about dad. sorry to hear that, it's been a pretty rotten ongoing situation
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 14:39:08 GMT
The people on here aren’t in charge of this? thank God 😂🤣😂🤣
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 15:15:22 GMT
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Post by patty on Apr 3, 2021 17:03:43 GMT
Sorry, just got serious news about dad. Hope it all works out OK....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 20:11:58 GMT
Received this post on one of my Facebook groups. A really good post I thought.
Steve Jay my conclusion (for what it's worth) - a lot of the proposed changes seem to be unlawful and would likely get slung out of court, even with if the licensee had initially consented. However, the fact that they had consented would put anyone instigating legal action on the back foot by definition. There is also the issue you raised about many boaters not having the necessary funds to litigate and therefore being at the mercy of the CRT's own 'kangaroo court'. I don't see anything in there likely to effect me personally, but what I do see is a whole load of subjective guff which the current system is relatively free of - and one of the reasons I choose to reside on the waterways. It is still a bastion of relative freedom which other walks of life have long since lost. Therefore I will happily donate to challenging in the early stages. Just a shame I missed the actual consultation deadline through not being sent the email.
Would also add that I don't think it's the place of the CRT to place moral judgements on the 'type' of boater they want to encourage, or determine what 'type of person' they want to reside on the waterways. This seems to be at the unsaid root of the proposed changes. We all pay a license fee and the current laws seem enough to deal with anyone causing real hassle. I loathe unnecessary red tape and the power freaks who take it upon themselves to inflict their self-righteousness upon others. The fewer tools they have the better and if it ain't broke ( and I've seen no evidence so far), don't fix it.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Apr 4, 2021 9:03:12 GMT
Received this post on one of my Facebook groups. A really good post I thought. Steve Jay my conclusion (for what it's worth) - a lot of the proposed changes seem to be unlawful and would likely get slung out of court, even with if the licensee had initially consented. However, the fact that they had consented would put anyone instigating legal action on the back foot by definition. There is also the issue you raised about many boaters not having the necessary funds to litigate and therefore being at the mercy of the CRT's own 'kangaroo court'. I don't see anything in there likely to effect me personally, but what I do see is a whole load of subjective guff which the current system is relatively free of - and one of the reasons I choose to reside on the waterways. It is still a bastion of relative freedom which other walks of life have long since lost. Therefore I will happily donate to challenging in the early stages. Just a shame I missed the actual consultation deadline through not being sent the email. Would also add that I don't think it's the place of the CRT to place moral judgements on the 'type' of boater they want to encourage, or determine what 'type of person' they want to reside on the waterways. This seems to be at the unsaid root of the proposed changes. We all pay a license fee and the current laws seem enough to deal with anyone causing real hassle. I loathe unnecessary red tape and the power freaks who take it upon themselves to inflict their self-righteousness upon others. The fewer tools they have the better and if it ain't broke ( and I've seen no evidence so far), don't fix it. Is the above post from the same Facebook group, or one of the same individuals, that provided you with the "100%" assurances that I wasn't living aboard "Halcyon Daze" when I was unlawfully evicted from it after it was seized by the bogus 'Bailiffs' supplied by Criminal Boat Services, . . and who C&RT have now admitted in a statement to the Police to not be on the Certificated Enforcement Agent (Bailiff) Register ? < certificatedbailiffs.justice.gov.uk/ >
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2021 9:06:46 GMT
Received this post on one of my Facebook groups. A really good post I thought. Steve Jay my conclusion (for what it's worth) - a lot of the proposed changes seem to be unlawful and would likely get slung out of court, even with if the licensee had initially consented. However, the fact that they had consented would put anyone instigating legal action on the back foot by definition. There is also the issue you raised about many boaters not having the necessary funds to litigate and therefore being at the mercy of the CRT's own 'kangaroo court'. I don't see anything in there likely to effect me personally, but what I do see is a whole load of subjective guff which the current system is relatively free of - and one of the reasons I choose to reside on the waterways. It is still a bastion of relative freedom which other walks of life have long since lost. Therefore I will happily donate to challenging in the early stages. Just a shame I missed the actual consultation deadline through not being sent the email. Would also add that I don't think it's the place of the CRT to place moral judgements on the 'type' of boater they want to encourage, or determine what 'type of person' they want to reside on the waterways. This seems to be at the unsaid root of the proposed changes. We all pay a license fee and the current laws seem enough to deal with anyone causing real hassle. I loathe unnecessary red tape and the power freaks who take it upon themselves to inflict their self-righteousness upon others. The fewer tools they have the better and if it ain't broke ( and I've seen no evidence so far), don't fix it. Is the above post from the same Facebook group, or one of the same individuals, that provided you with the "100%" assurances that I wasn't living aboard "Halcyon Daze" when I was unlawfully evicted from it after it was seized by the bogus 'Bailiffs' supplied by Criminal Boat Services, . . and who C&RT have now admitted in a statement to the Police to not be on the Certificated Enforcement Agent (Bailiff) Register ? < certificatedbailiffs.justice.gov.uk/ > *yawn*
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Post by TonyDunkley on Apr 4, 2021 9:11:56 GMT
Is the above post from the same Facebook group, or one of the same individuals, that provided you with the "100%" assurances that I wasn't living aboard "Halcyon Daze" when I was unlawfully evicted from it after it was seized by the bogus 'Bailiffs' supplied by Criminal Boat Services, . . and who C&RT have now admitted in a statement to the Police to not be on the Certificated Enforcement Agent (Bailiff) Register ? < certificatedbailiffs.justice.gov.uk/ > *yawn* A simple 'yes' or 'no' will do, . . or is there some special reason why you'd rather not answer ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2021 9:21:03 GMT
A simple 'yes' or 'no' will do, . . or is there some special reason why you'd rather not answer ? *yawn*
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Post by TonyDunkley on Apr 4, 2021 11:29:53 GMT
A simple 'yes' or 'no' will do, . . or is there some special reason why you'd rather not answer ? *yawn* Do you have any connection with the anonymous "boat dwellers" or the unspecified "other support organisations" who are, apparently, involved with the Protect boats that are people's homes! appeal for funding on the CrowdJustice website ? If not, perhaps S.Jenkin, or J.Evans, or W.Mitty, or A.Esterby, or S.Jay, or E.M.Bezzler, or even Jenlyn himself, whoever he is, could help with identifying them ? I would gladly contribute to any fund raising appeal that will go towards paying for appropriate and effective legal action intended to compel C&RT to cease abusing and misusing the statutory powers inherited from the BWB, . . but I'd want to know who, and what, I'll be contributing to !
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2021 11:32:14 GMT
Do you have any connection with the anonymous "boat dwellers" or the unspecified "other support organisations" who are, apparently, involved with the Protect boats that are people's homes! appeal for funding on the CrowdJustice website ? If not, perhaps S.Jenkin, or J.Evans, or W.Mitty, or A.Esterby, or S.Jay, or E.M.Bezzler, or even Jenlyn himself, whoever he is, could help with identifying them ? I would gladly contribute to any fund raising appeal that will go towards paying for appropriate and effective legal action intended to compel C&RT to cease abusing and misusing the statutory powers inherited from the BWB, . . but I'd want to know who, and what, I'll be contributing to ! *yawn*
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Post by Allan on Apr 4, 2021 14:44:52 GMT
'bedruthan' has been accused before of making things up. It's funny how much stays on the Internet forever and ever. A search for 'Steve Jay Jenlyn' throws this up: "Why would I have to own up 'in the end' - if Steve Jay takes me to court for calling him a liar (which is what he his) of course then I would delight in taking things all the way and proving him wrong 'in the end' but the gutless shit bag hasn't got the balls to sue me because he knows he would lose. He's a bare faced liar." ... and a very tired liar at the moment it seems.
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