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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2021 20:43:35 GMT
Was it a PBK? I was offered a nackered PBK quite recently to take away but due to a tendency to have too much general shite around I had to refuse it. Quite cool boats but once the skin has gone it's quite a lot of work to sort it out. His daughter helped him publish his life story A life full of hobbies An excellent read www.amazon.co.uk/Life-Full-Hobbies-Percy-Blandford/dp/0955312493
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Post by thebfg on Aug 6, 2021 21:02:03 GMT
If your fishing and touring then get the one best suited for storage etc.
Ive always wanted a hobbie they do an island trimaran. Great for down here.
The great late Nigel had a hobbie. Wonder if his late wife would sell it?
To me not you. I can't afford a new one.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Aug 6, 2021 21:15:36 GMT
Expensive things those Hobies. Some in excess of £2K. Saw a used one for sale a few weeks ago for £1.2K. Very heavy things. Not sure they are worth the money. Most kayaks around these days are half decent. My current one is 8 years old, has been heavily used and abused including being dragged up beaches, up concrete slipways and over rocks, it still refuses to take on any water. It was a cheap one, a Galaxy, some would describe it as a cheap heap of Chinese junk.
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Post by thebfg on Aug 6, 2021 21:21:57 GMT
The trimaran is a lot more but very stable and with a sail, I'd be using it for deep sea fishing. The wrecks and Nab tower.
I'm happy in the confines of the solent on a sea yak but not right out there.
However I will probably just get a used kayak. We used to use my mates but he sold it at a time I couldn't afford it.
Probably end up with a boat instead, knowing me.
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Post by bodger on Aug 6, 2021 21:29:14 GMT
Evacuating from a closed kayak fitted with a spray deck is easy - you just need to practice it until it becomes second nature.
When I was a lad we used to worry the Sunday afternoon gongoozlers in Reading by capsizing, removing the spray deck, slipping out of the boat and then putting our heads inside the boat. We would drift with the current for maybe 5 minutes, then do the reverse (difficult to get the legs in when upside-down and holding your breath), finally clipping the spray deck back on and rolling the boat upright. A silly exercise but did wonders for our confidence in our ability to manage a capsized boat.
If I was in your position, Ricco, I would buy a proper kayak and fill the ends with so much buoyancy that it would always float high out of the water, even upside down. In reality, however, there is no need to capsize, even in a narrow kayak. It's a bit like riding a bike - once you have the knack you never fall over.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Aug 6, 2021 21:53:10 GMT
Evacuating from a closed kayak fitted with a spray deck is easy - you just need to practice it until it becomes second nature. When I was a lad we used to worry the Sunday afternoon gongoozlers in Reading by capsizing, removing the spray deck, slipping out of the boat and then putting our heads inside the boat. We would drift with the current for maybe 5 minutes, then do the reverse (difficult to get the legs in when upside-down and holding your breath), finally clipping the spray deck back on and rolling the boat upright. A silly exercise but did wonders for our confidence in our ability to manage a capsized boat. If I was in your position, Ricco, I would buy a proper kayak and fill the ends with so much buoyancy that it would always float high out of the water, even upside down. In reality, however, there is no need to capsize, even in a narrow kayak. It's a bit like riding a bike - once you have the knack you never fall over. I take your point but what's the advantage of having a sit inside kayak? Apart from anything else, there's nowhere to store anything. I need to carry, as a minimum: Anchor, rope, water and the transport trolley. Often 1 or 2 fishing rods, boxes of lures etc. And then I'm hoping: Small tent, sleeping bag, cooking equipment, food etc. etc.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2021 3:53:10 GMT
sit on top kayaks are much safer. There's no possibility of getting caught within the boat's structure during a capsize. A sit on top can't sink providing that the hull isn't ruptured. Any water that comes aboard is naturally scuppered back into the sea. A sit inside kayak will sink if it fills with water. A sit on top is also more comfortable. You can easily adjust your seating stance, even turn sideways and dangle your legs into the water if you like. The only advantage I can see with a sit inside is weight, and that only really makes any difference with transportation. I had a BIC sit on top kayak once. It was not a nice boat to paddle I think the skin friction on the roto moulded polypropylene boats is much more than on a GRP vessel. Could have just been length related I suppose. A sit on top is safer in general but if you can roll it in other words right yourself in the event of being turned over then a sit inside sea kayak in GRP is the Rolls Royce option. Like this Of course being long they will go well but if you are fishing and not bothered about going a long distance then a sit on top is probably better as more room for gear on board.
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Post by thebfg on Aug 7, 2021 6:25:05 GMT
I haven't rolled one for 25 years. Got me 2* but award in the scouts and never been over since.
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Post by patty on Aug 7, 2021 6:29:45 GMT
I like kayaks. I decided that I would try to go out in one where ever I roamed abroad so managed the Caribbean where it meets the Atlantic plus another place that cannot remember, Svalberg, Iceland and up the fjord in Norway to see the 7 Sisters waterfall... Not many I know but each trip fairly memorable..appart from the one I cannot remember but that ones blocked. Shared kayak with real bossy c.. and anyone would think running aground x 2 in the same place was a major sin. Stupid woman. Youngest son has also taken me out a few times. Don't have room to store one here really though daughter considering getting one for us to share though suspect the 'share' will be mostly with her daughter.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2021 6:37:54 GMT
The yellow one. It will be easier to spot you when you need rescuing.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Aug 7, 2021 6:44:00 GMT
The yellow one. It will be easier to spot you when you need rescuing. Yes, tend to agree. I slightly prefer the khaki one, it's a cool colour but I don't dislike the yellow. Also the blades on my paddle are yellow so why not have a bit of colour coordination going on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2021 6:52:08 GMT
The yellow one. It will be easier to spot you when you need rescuing. Yes, tend to agree. I slightly prefer the khaki one, it's a cool colour but I don't dislike the yellow. Also the blades on my paddle are yellow so why not have a bit of colour coordination going on. Though, I don't know what effect a yellow one would have on the fish. Do fish look up? Whenever I go out in my kayaks, usually in hard to reach areas, it is always at the forefront of my mind how well I will be spotted by my rescuers when I have my inevitable heart attack. I tend to carry a small stand alone GPS and and old dumb phone, as I have never had much success with a smart phone with wet hands, or those waterproof phone bags you can buy.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Aug 7, 2021 7:20:43 GMT
Yes, tend to agree. I slightly prefer the khaki one, it's a cool colour but I don't dislike the yellow. Also the blades on my paddle are yellow so why not have a bit of colour coordination going on. Though, I don't know what effect a yellow one would have on the fish. Do fish look up? Whenever I go out in my kayaks, usually in hard to reach areas, it is always at the forefront of my mind how well I will be spotted by my rescuers when I have my inevitable heart attack. I tend to carry a small stand alone GPS and and old dumb phone, as I have never had much success with a smart phone with wet hands, or those waterproof phone bags you can buy. My current one is camou, bought with disguising myself from the fish in mind. Unfortunately 'desert storm' doesn't really cut it on the ocean, I didn't think that through very well. Probably the reason I don't catch very much. Mind you, bass were milling all a round me the other day, curiosity, I guess. I have a cheap waterproof phone case. Tested it by putting some kitchen paper inside then weighing it down in a bucket of water. 24 hours later the paper was dry as a bone. I can operate it while it's still in the bag. That will do me.
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Post by bodger on Aug 8, 2021 6:55:55 GMT
sit on top kayaks are much safer. There's no possibility of getting caught within the boat's structure during a capsize. A sit on top can't sink providing that the hull isn't ruptured. Any water that comes aboard is naturally scuppered back into the sea. A sit inside kayak will sink if it fills with water. A sit on top is also more comfortable. You can easily adjust your seating stance, even turn sideways and dangle your legs into the water if you like. The only advantage I can see with a sit inside is weight, and that only really makes any difference with transportation. I had a BIC sit on top kayak once. It was not a nice boat to paddle I think the skin friction on the roto moulded polypropylene boats is much more than on a GRP vessel. Could have just been length related I suppose. A sit on top is safer in general but if you can roll it in other words right yourself in the event of being turned over then a sit inside sea kayak in GRP is the Rolls Royce option. Like this Of course being long they will go well but if you are fishing and not bothered about going a long distance then a sit on top is probably better as more room for gear on board.
let's be honest - sit-on kayaks are toys, proper kayaks are for grown-ups.
it doesn't take much imagination to arrange for quick access items to be stored on the deck of a proper kayak. Because your bum is about 9" higher in a toy boat, the kayak will be much more stable for similar dimensions. This fred did start by OP looking for a faster boat, so we should assume that he is looking at a really slim hull that, in the case of the toy boat, will be relatively unstable. Kayaks shouldn't capsize unless you hook a man-eater or try to hug a swan. Toy boats are designed to fall off and get back inagain Michael Finnigan.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Aug 8, 2021 7:56:20 GMT
I had a BIC sit on top kayak once. It was not a nice boat to paddle I think the skin friction on the roto moulded polypropylene boats is much more than on a GRP vessel. Could have just been length related I suppose. A sit on top is safer in general but if you can roll it in other words right yourself in the event of being turned over then a sit inside sea kayak in GRP is the Rolls Royce option. Like this Of course being long they will go well but if you are fishing and not bothered about going a long distance then a sit on top is probably better as more room for gear on board.
let's be honest - sit-on kayaks are toys, proper kayaks are for grown-ups.
it doesn't take much imagination to arrange for quick access items to be stored on the deck of a proper kayak. Because your bum is about 9" higher in a toy boat, the kayak will be much more stable for similar dimensions. This fred did start by OP looking for a faster boat, so we should assume that he is looking at a really slim hull that, in the case of the toy boat, will be relatively unstable. Kayaks shouldn't capsize unless you hook a man-eater or try to hug a swan. Toy boats are designed to fall off and get back inagain Michael Finnigan.
I'm after a compromise really. I do want more speed. The tide through the bottleneck at the estuary during spring tides more or less matches the top speed of my existing toy. It's touch and go getting through, need to paddle like a demon and be very precise selecting the exact line where the tide run is just a touch less. I've failed more than once. I've always gone to sea on a rising tide, as I wouldn't like to be caught outside, struggle to get back in on the rising tide. A faster boat will make this problem redundant and enable me to go out on the ebb in safety. Also, there are several good fishing marks around 4-6 miles away. I could use the existing boat but I'd be faced with a 1 or 2 hour paddle each way. I could do that, but prefer to have the option of doing it quicker. So while more speed is important I need to trade some of this for more stability, for fishing. I also need lots of storage possibility. Ideally I'd have a couple of toys and a proper kayak but that's not an option, so compromise it is.
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