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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 18:54:29 GMT
I reckon these days because of the internet there are less scrotes around to cause a nuisance as they are online.
Good news for boaters in general.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 18:57:30 GMT
It's because it's a narrow canal and if two wide beams were travelling in opposite directions at the same time there would likely be problems. No more so than a pair of loaded boats (motor drawing around 3' 8'' static) passing an empty pair (motor drawing around 3' static) anywhere along the North Oxford, . . or the Coventry, . . or the Moira, . . which is something that used to happen several times every day, . . before the cut got populated with weedsFixed that for you Tony, try taking a trip along a narrow canal nowadays.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 18:59:12 GMT
It's because it's a narrow canal and if two wide beams were travelling in opposite directions at the same time there would likely be problems. No more so than a pair of loaded boats (motor drawing around 3' 8'' static) passing an empty pair (motor drawing around 3' static) anywhere along the North Oxford, . . or the Coventry, . . or the Moira, . . which is something that used to happen several times every day, . . before the cut got populated with pleasure craft that can't meet a boat coming the other way without leaving a gap big enough for another boat to fit between them. A pair can single out ... try that with wide beams. Being a working boater I thought you'd understand that. Rog
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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 19, 2021 19:01:59 GMT
I’d like to see you move selby Micheal Tony. Selby Michael is staying where it is, . . until C&RT -- who put it where it is, and pumped it down -- raise it and put back on it's allocated (commercial) mooring, . . and cover the cost of any damage done to hull, outfit, and machinery.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 19, 2021 19:06:23 GMT
For some reason it doesn't surprise me that canals were maintained to a higher standard, and repairs carried out more quickly, when they were a commercial undertaking. They do say that a set of lock gates would be replaced in a weekend. I understand why that doesn't happen now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 19:20:23 GMT
I’d like to see you move selby Micheal Tony. Selby Michael is staying where it is, . . until C&RT -- who put it where it is, and pumped it down -- raise it and put back on it's allocated (commercial) mooring, . . and cover the cost of any damage done to hull, outfit, and machinery. I see the future...I see...a fresh series of preposterous emails...
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Post by wandering on Aug 19, 2021 19:24:11 GMT
We're moored opposite the water point and facilities. If there's a boat watering up this widebeam won't be able to get through and it's a slooow tap. Have camera ready for capturing resulting chaos. There's a lot of it about at the moment.
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Post by kris on Aug 19, 2021 19:28:04 GMT
Selby Michael is staying where it is, . . until C&RT -- who put it where it is, and pumped it down -- raise it and put back on it's allocated (commercial) mooring, . . and cover the cost of any damage done to hull, outfit, and machinery. I see the future...I see...a fresh series of preposterous emails... I think it will be staying on the bottom for a while lonnger yet.
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Post by thebfg on Aug 19, 2021 19:28:12 GMT
Selby Michael is staying where it is, . . until C&RT -- who put it where it is, and pumped it down -- raise it and put back on it's allocated (commercial) mooring, . . and cover the cost of any damage done to hull, outfit, and machinery. I see the future...I see...a fresh series of preposterous emails... You forgot a bit at the end about being ignored.
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Post by mrbeacham on Aug 19, 2021 19:44:00 GMT
It's because it's a narrow canal and if two wide beams were travelling in opposite directions at the same time there would likely be problems. No more so than a pair of loaded boats (motor drawing around 3' 8'' static) passing an empty pair (motor drawing around 3' static) anywhere along the North Oxford, . . or the Coventry, . . or the Moira, . . which is something that used to happen several times every day, . . before the cut got populated with pleasure craft that can't meet a boat coming the other way without leaving a gap big enough for another boat to fit between them. Would love to see you take two breasted up, deep draught boats up the Ashby canal now.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 19, 2021 19:49:00 GMT
I see the future...I see...a fresh series of preposterous emails... I think it will be staying on the bottom for a while lonnger yet. " Selby Michael" can stay where it is until Domesday, . . as far as I'm concerned. It's a registered commercial vessel, which unlike "Halcyon Daze" puts it outside the scope of the 1971 Act, particularly S.5(1), . . and it's of far more use and value to me left laying exactly where C&RT deliberately sank it, on a commercial waterway that hasn't been maintained to a sufficient depth for it to operate on, than it ever would be laying somewhere afloat with me responsible for its situation. The present situation with the ship rests wholly at C&RT's door, having moved it from its allocated mooring and then leaving it moored on three ropes instead of the five I left it on at Hazleford maintenance wharf, . . the headrope being a shackled on wire needing tools to let it go, and one of the two that weren't put back on when they moved it from its mooring and then left it inadequately secured in the weirstream behind the lowside bullnose. What you should be concerning yourself about is how soon the bodge-up repairs you've got A41 floating on at the moment lead to that ending up on the bottom somewhere.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 20, 2021 5:42:18 GMT
No more so than a pair of loaded boats (motor drawing around 3' 8'' static) passing an empty pair (motor drawing around 3' static) anywhere along the North Oxford, . . or the Coventry, . . or the Moira, . . which is something that used to happen several times every day, . . before the cut got populated with weedsFixed that for you Tony, try taking a trip along a narrow canal nowadays. I have done, . . on ex-working boats, . . and the weed/reed growth along the inside and outside of "little" cuts, like the North Oxford, Coventry, and Moira, is far less now than it ever was when there was regular commercial traffic on those lengths. The daily passage of pairs of loaded, and empty, boats in those days made for a well defined deep channel with much less depth along the margins than there is now. All the piling and dredging that was done by BWB after all regular long distance narrowboat carrying finished in 1970, added to the effect of shallow draft pleasure craft cutting turns off and weaving their way along the cut like a drunk go home from the pub, has resulted in canals with a completely different cross-sectional profile. The middle of the channel -- or the outsides of the turns - are now all shallower than they used to be, whilst both sides, the margins, are noticeably much deeper.
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Post by patty on Aug 20, 2021 6:01:14 GMT
We're moored opposite the water point and facilities. If there's a boat watering up this widebeam won't be able to get through and it's a slooow tap. Have camera ready for capturing resulting chaos. There's a lot of it about at the moment. Well fingers crossed u get to capture those moments of chaos I like to see a bit of boats related chaos
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Post by ianali on Aug 20, 2021 6:12:32 GMT
Widebeam boats in this area is hardly unusual. Most time we are near Braunston we see wide boats. They seem to navigate through the traffic ok, certainly no more hassle than a few narrows we see about. I believe they are meant to seek CRTs permission before cruising these parts, don’t think many of them do though. Can’t say I blame them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2021 7:44:00 GMT
No problem through Braunston and along to Napton ... it's the GU that way.
The issue arises with the North Oxford, which is a narrow canal .
As C&RT approved Barby moorings and Dunchurch Pools wide openings and mooring berths for wide beam boats, it is obvious that travel along the north Oxford would be encouraged.
You can't blame the wide beam owners for that.
Rog
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