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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2021 18:15:49 GMT
My friends was a rounded stern and had a Beta engine. Beautiful woodwork inside too ... a cosy, tiny boat for a couple. Rog I guess that is what we are looking for Rog, a cosy boat. There's only the 2 of us, no kids or pets so we don't need anything too long.
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Post by Isambard Kingdom Brunel on Aug 29, 2021 18:18:54 GMT
Canal boats are built with a rounded stern for a good reason. Rather built with an elliptical stern is better. It is to enable the steer away from the bank without rubbing the stern off. And to get the lock gates closed sooner.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2021 18:31:55 GMT
Personally speaking I doubt either of those two points are a particularly significant advantage in practice. I don't doubt that you are right but I suspect the real reason modern NBs are built with rounded sterns is one of aesthetics more than anything else. One other thing about Springers - you'll likely never agonise too much about form over function.
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Post by Trina on Aug 29, 2021 18:37:26 GMT
My friends was a rounded stern and had a Beta engine. Beautiful woodwork inside too ... a cosy, tiny boat for a couple. Rog I guess that is what we are looking for Rog, a cosy boat. There's only the 2 of us, no kids or pets so we don't need anything too long.Β 2 of us,1 large cat & we've had a 55' cruiser stern from new.It's a good size for us & we love her.π
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Post by ianali on Aug 29, 2021 18:43:45 GMT
We have good friends that have lived on a 40β springer for about 7 years. Itβs maybe the cosiest, most welcoming boat Iβve been on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2021 18:52:55 GMT
Newer outboards have a higher 12v output I have a optional generator for my not-new Seagull(s) so there. Tends to soak up some of the power though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2021 18:59:06 GMT
I guess that is what we are looking for Rog, a cosy boat. There's only the 2 of us, no kids or pets so we don't need anything too long. 2 of us,1 large cat & we've had a 55' cruiser stern from new.It's a good size for us & we love her.π I understand there's a two year old Bickerstaffe boat going for a snip at Β£140,000 ... not bad for "arguably the most famous canal boat on the system" Rog
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2021 19:08:43 GMT
We have good friends that have lived on a 40β springer for about 7 years. Itβs maybe the cosiest, most welcoming boat Iβve been on. I guess it's like a house, it's what you make of it.
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Post by Jim on Aug 29, 2021 19:27:15 GMT
Newer outboards have a higher 12v output I have a optional generator for my not-new Seagull(s) so there. Tends to soak up some of the power though. I have a 800w 2 stroke Genny, but not used it since I got the solar and inverter. Most stuff eats 12 voles anyway. Or 5 voles through a dedicated socket. Adjustable buck converter for the radio, 7.5v. My old Honda 10 put out 5ah max, new one 12ah. What does the seagull put out?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2021 19:34:38 GMT
I have a optional generator for my not-new Seagull(s) so there. Tends to soak up some of the power though. I have a 800w 2 stroke Genny, but not used it since I got the solar and inverter. Most stuff eats 12 voles anyway. Or 5 voles through a dedicated socket. Adjustable buck converter for the radio, 7.5v. My old Honda 10 put out 5ah max, new one 12ah. What does the seagull put out? Actually not sure...not a lot I suspect. If truth be told I've never used it, it's not a plug-and-play type deal. You have to do some dismantling to fit it.
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Post by JohnV on Aug 29, 2021 19:34:55 GMT
I have a optional generator for my not-new Seagull(s) so there. Tends to soak up some of the power though. I have a 800w 2 stroke Genny, but not used it since I got the solar and inverter. Most stuff eats 12 voles anyway. Or 5 voles through a dedicated socket. Adjustable buck converter for the radio, 7.5v. My old Honda 10 put out 5ah max, new one 12ah. What does the seagull put out? tut tut ..... tellymachus is going to be on at you for wrong terminology
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2021 20:00:57 GMT
Canal boats are built with a rounded stern for a good reason. Rather built with an ellipticalΒ stern is better.Β It is to enable the steer away from the bank without rubbing the stern off. And to get the lock gates closed sooner. I had an early Allen's narrow boat years ago. 1960s I think it was and it had a really good stern on it which tapered away earlier than most modern narrow boats. Really good handling that was. Makes all the difference. Dulcinea while not being a narrow boat has a similar taper at the stern which is incredibly handy when leaving lock waiting areas and lock chambers. I have never had to push the boat away from the side. Twin engines helps obviously but you can't beat a nice taper towards the stern. Wonderful.
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Post by Trina on Aug 29, 2021 20:19:53 GMT
2 of us,1 large cat & we've had a 55' cruiser stern from new.It's a good size for us & we love her.π I understand there's a two year old Bickerstaffe boat going for a snip at Β£140,000 ... not bad for "arguably the most famous canal boat on the system"Β Β Rog I would also expect to have bought the factory for that much !!
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Post by phil70 on Aug 29, 2021 20:25:35 GMT
I have a 800w 2 stroke Genny, but not used it since I got the solar and inverter. Most stuff eats 12 voles anyway. Or 5 voles through a dedicated socket. Adjustable buck converter for the radio, 7.5v. My old Honda 10 put out 5ah max, new one 12ah. What does the seagull put out? tut tut ..... tellymachus is going to be on at you for wrong terminology Yeah but we all no what it means. Phil
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2021 20:32:39 GMT
Canal boats are built with a rounded stern for a good reason. Rather built with an elliptical stern is better. It is to enable the steer away from the bank without rubbing the stern off. And to get the lock gates closed sooner. I had an early Allen's narrow boat years ago. 1960s I think it was and it had a really good stern on it which tapered away earlier than most modern narrow boats. Really good handling that was. Makes all the difference. Dulcinea while not being a narrow boat has a similar taper at the stern which is incredibly handy when leaving lock waiting areas and lock chambers. I have never had to push the boat away from the side. Twin engines helps obviously but you can't beat a nice taper towards the stern. Wonderful. While I tend to suspect that the average Springer does not have the most thoughtful underwater profile imaginable, I have always thought the shape of the stern above the counter has much less effect on handling. Would you agree?
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