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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2022 11:01:12 GMT
This is akin to the Brexit belly achers ... we had a vote and rightly or wrongly the majority voted 'out' We have to move on now. There was a serious medical threat and a vaccine was offered ... we had the jabs or didn't by choice. On to the next issue Rog
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2022 11:18:26 GMT
This is akin to the Brexit belly achers ... we had a vote and rightly or wrongly the majority voted 'out' We have to move on now. There was a serious medical threat and a vaccine was offered ... we had the jabs or didn't by choice. On to the next issue Rog Well not really. If it wasn't for those who protested against manditory vaccines in and out of parliament we could have opened the back door to genocide. I agree though, that there isn't much point in belly aching after the event, except that there is still a drive to make them manditory...
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Post by JohnV on Jul 18, 2022 11:20:46 GMT
This is akin to the Brexit belly achers ... we had a vote and rightly or wrongly the majority voted 'out' We have to move on now. There was a serious medical threat and a vaccine was offered ... we had the jabs or didn't by choice. On to the next issue Rog except that there is still a drive to make them manditory... only amongst the opposite end of the crazies spectrum
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2022 11:25:10 GMT
This is akin to the Brexit belly achers ... we had a vote and rightly or wrongly the majority voted 'out' We have to move on now. There was a serious medical threat and a vaccine was offered ... we had the jabs or didn't by choice. On to the next issue Rog Well not really. If it wasn't for those who protested against manditory vaccines in and out of parliament we could have opened the back door to genocide. I agree though, that there isn't much point in belly aching after the event, except that there is still a drive to make them manditory... Well I'm glad you're not over reacting š¤£ š¤£ No back door to genocide ... trust the medical advice or ignore it ... free to choose and job done. Rog
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2022 11:26:13 GMT
...and to rejoin the EU as it happens...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2022 11:36:49 GMT
Well not really. If it wasn't for those who protested against manditory vaccines in and out of parliament we could have opened the back door to genocide. I agree though, that there isn't much point in belly aching after the event, except that there is still a drive to make them manditory... Well I'm glad you're not over reacting š¤£ š¤£ No back door to genocide ... trust the medical advice or ignore it ... free to choose and job done. Rog Do you trust everything you are told by multi billion global medical companies and the politicians who back what they advise? On choice, do you beleve that what ever democracy we have left in this country will be retained if we just leave it up to our career politicians? It's all about truth and trust Rog and there is a good reason why Boris is being replaced. I think we got of lightly, there are other countries still pushing this stuff...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2022 11:39:17 GMT
I don't think what you and I think count for anything. Praise the God of all, drink the wine (alcoholic beverage of choice) and let the world be the world Rog
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2022 11:40:53 GMT
I don't think what you and I think count for anything. Praise the God of all, drink the wine (alcoholic beverage of choice) and let the world be the world Rog Make sure you drink plenty of water and check the color of your piss then... ;-)
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 18, 2022 11:47:50 GMT
If you are talking about the Covid vaccines, when it comes to making a choice on a technical matter, unless they are well qualified in the subject matter (which no-one on here is), any remotely sensible person would seek advice from those qualified in the field, rather than seeking advice from nutters of Facebook or using their own preconceived ideas not based on any science. But of course there are a large number of people who arenāt sensible, hence the less than 100% uptake rate of the vaccine. The Governor of the Bank of England, Andrew Bailey, is a highly qualified economist who stated just last week that he did not believe that money printing leads to inflation. So obviously studying the Weimar Republic or Zimbabwe wasn't covered in his curriculum. Or perhaps these people don't say what they actually think but rather what they feel will suit their own ends and those of the controlling class, knowing full well that there are some poor wooden-headed saps eager to lap it up? Iād say he is clearly proven to be correct, even though it doesnāt suit your personal agenda. QA started in 2009 in UK, and for the next 12 years or so inflation was very low. Then we had Covid and the Ruskies trying to invade Ukraine, which is why we suddenly have high inflation. Putting this yearās high inflation down to QA is as logical as saying āwell, inflation was very low before the invention of the steam engine and look at it now! Clearly the invention of the steam engine is to blame for high inflationā.
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 18, 2022 11:50:02 GMT
If you are talking about the Covid vaccines, when it comes to making a choice on a technical matter, unless they are well qualified in the subject matter (which no-one on here is), any remotely sensible person would seek advice from those qualified in the field, rather than seeking advice from nutters of Facebook or using their own preconceived ideas not based on any science. But of course there are a large number of people who arenāt sensible, hence the less than 100% uptake rate of the vaccine. If your point is more general, actually quite a lot of people like to be told what to do because it absolves them from having to think for themselves, and if the instruction turns out to be wrong they have someone to blame other than themselves. I was being general but... Science is amazing, but it is really just a tool. Any tool can be used for a good purpose or a bad purpose. Science has never been able to answer everything and we're still discovering the power of nature. Mistakes are made in science, some very serious. That's because there will always be a certain amount of gambling involved (hopefully very littlel). But add into the pot the desire to make profit over safety, it's important that we as individuals can still choose. unfortunately that relies on us getting truthful information. When scientists and politicians stretch the truth to make financial profit they let everyone down. Once trust has gone, we become more sceptical and in danger of not reacting to what could be even more serious threats in the future. This can be true, it in the case of Covid it is an implausible conspiracy theory that nearly every medic in the entire world (who doesnāt have shares in the drug companies) is strongly in favour of the vaccine āfor the wrong reasonsā.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jul 18, 2022 11:53:37 GMT
A genuine question. If an ex bus driver, also an ex boat owner, is also a rabid anti-vaxxer, which (hohohohoho) do they bang on about for days and weeks till they drive everyone away and are just left wittering in the wilderness? Not an 'anti-vaxxer' as you well know..... just bright enough to decide that quickly-conjured-up experimental drugs for a pandemic-that-clearly-wasn't are not for me. As I have pointed out, it was all 'conspiracy theory' here on this forum when I said there'd be a 2nd Jab ... and now you'll be up to number 5 after Summer. 5 jabs for any cough or sneeze that can fit the term 'Covid'. Watch out for the next 'wave'! Lord knows how I haven't died of 'Covid' after two and a half years of being exposed to a highly contagious virus. It must be down to everyone else who took the 'vaccines' and have been wearing face masks to 'protect me'.... yes, that must be it. People will never admit they've been well and truly 'had'.
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Post by JohnV on Jul 18, 2022 11:56:42 GMT
thank you Nick for repeatedly putting up posts with which I concur I just have to give them a thumbs up and don't have to spend time typing
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Post by JohnV on Jul 18, 2022 12:03:38 GMT
A genuine question. If an ex bus driver, also an ex boat owner, is also a rabid anti-vaxxer, which (hohohohoho) do they bang on about for days and weeks till they drive everyone away and are just left wittering in the wilderness? Not an 'anti-vaxxer' as you well know..... just bright enough to decide that quickly-conjured-up experimental drugs for a pandemic-that-clearly-wasn't are not for me. you mean the system of modelling viruses to be able to produce vaccines faster than in the past that the Cambridge group started working on in 2017 ? ....... twat
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2022 12:06:20 GMT
A genuine question. If an ex bus driver, also an ex boat owner, is also a rabid anti-vaxxer, which (hohohohoho) do they bang on about for days and weeks till they drive everyone away and are just left wittering in the wilderness? People will never admit they've been well and truly 'had'. I'll be sure to let you know if and when that should happen š¤ Rog
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 18, 2022 12:06:58 GMT
I was being general but... Science is amazing, but it is really just a tool. Any tool can be used for a good purpose or a bad purpose. Science has never been able to answer everything and we're still discovering the power of nature. Mistakes are made in science, some very serious. That's because there will always be a certain amount of gambling involved (hopefully very littlel). But add into the pot the desire to make profit over safety, it's important that we as individuals can still choose. unfortunately that relies on us getting truthful information. When scientists and politicians stretch the truth to make financial profit they let everyone down. Once trust has gone, we become more sceptical and in danger of not reacting to what could be even more serious threats in the future. This can be true, it in the case of Covid it is an implausible conspiracy theory that nearly every medic in the entire world (who doesnāt have shares in the drug companies) is strongly in favour of the vaccine āfor the wrong reasonsā. Quite simply this isn't true, but medics are fully aware of the penalties for "wrongthink". " GPs have been warned that criticising the Covid vaccine or other pandemic measures via social media could leave them āvulnerableā to GMC investigation. The warning, from the Medical Protection Society (MPS), comes as a GP is appealing a temporary social media ban imposed by the GMC after he was accused of spreading āmisinformationā. Dr Samuel White is appealing against interim conditions imposed on his registration with the GMC following complaints about a video he posted to Instagram and Twitter in June. In a seven-minute clip, he discussed why he could no longer work in his previous roles because of the āliesā around the NHS and Government approach to the pandemic that were āso vastā he could no longer āstomach or tolerateā them, the Royal Courts of Justice were told this month. He also raised concerns about the safety of the Covid vaccine and testing methods and claimed that āmasks do nothingā, the hearing heard". www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/breaking-news/gps-who-criticise-covid-vaccine-on-social-media-vulnerable-to-gmc-investigation/
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