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Post by bargemast on Mar 18, 2017 14:02:58 GMT
Peter, I really hope to bring my boat across the channel at some stage. To explore some of the amazing waterways on the continent. Your boat would be perfect for the exploration of the continental waterways, and a big advantage of a Leeds & Liverpool Shortboat is that they are under 20m, which means a lot less hassle.
For the time being I only know of 2 other shortboats cruising around on the continent, one that has been there since a long time named "NIDD", and of course the "A40", so yours would be the third, unless I've missed a couple of other ones.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 14:13:43 GMT
I've been tempted by France and have got fairly advanced in planning to take one of my boats over there. My children and their mother are French (Other half is from Dijon, kids were born in London).
Only thing which puts me off a bit is that the canal de Bourgogne which is close to the outlaws seems very different to UK canals. It seems very modern and a bit monotonous, more like a dyke than a canal.
The Marne around Paris looks nice.
I expect it'd be quite nice over there overall but very different from Englandland. I quite like Englandland in a predictable sense.
And its full of ruddy furriners. Well I suppose not as the canals are full of anglais as well !
New thread?
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Post by bargemast on Mar 18, 2017 14:54:40 GMT
I've been tempted by France and have got fairly advanced in planning to take one of my boats over there. My children and their mother are French (Other half is from Dijon, kids were born in London). Only thing which puts me off a bit is that the canal de Bourgogne which is close to the outlaws seems very different to UK canals. It seems very modern and a bit monotonous, more like a dyke than a canal. The Marne around Paris looks nice. I expect it'd be quite nice over there overall but very different from Englandland. I quite like Englandland in a predictable sense. And its full of ruddy furriners. Well I suppose not as the canals are full of anglais as well ! New thread? I'm not too keen on the Canal de Bourgogne (link between the river Yonne and the river Saône) in general, apart from the section between Escommes after the Pouilly-en-Auxois tunnel Southern end, and Dijon were you'll be going through the rather beautiful Vallée d'Ouche, after Dijon all the way to St.Jean de Losne is pretty boring it's less then a days cruise, and St.Jd L is an interesting place at the junction of the river Saône and the Burgundy Canal, with a big Port de Plaisance and a couple of secondhand boat and barge dealers.
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Post by patty on Mar 18, 2017 15:58:05 GMT
That is truly a most beautiful boat ...I'd love to own summit like that...I used to live in Harborough but never saw her there..and I lurked around the moorings, she must have arrived after I left..sigh
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Post by JohnV on Mar 18, 2017 16:32:50 GMT
That is truly a most beautiful boat ...I'd love to own summit like that...I used to live in Harborough but never saw her there..and I lurked around the moorings, she must have arrived after I left..sigh Guessed you would love it ....... smasher isn't it
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Post by kris on Mar 26, 2017 9:36:29 GMT
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Post by bargemast on Mar 26, 2017 10:32:21 GMT
If the hull is still in good nick, then it's dirt cheap for the money they're asking for this boat.
I'm not in the market for a boat like that, and would rather sell 2 of my 3 boats than buying one (as 1 is already more than I can afford atm).
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Post by kris on Mar 26, 2017 11:00:25 GMT
It would all depend on the condition of the hull, but this is the kind of boat I can imagine modifying to push a dumb boat.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 11:09:46 GMT
Its very nice. Does seem cheap perhaps its thin.
I wonder how old it is? It reminds me a bit of a cable-laying boat I've seen on the Thames.
1960s?
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Post by bargemast on Mar 26, 2017 16:15:41 GMT
It would all depend on the condition of the hull, but this is the kind of boat I can imagine modifying to push a dumb boat. She would push a dumb barge without any problem with the 6 cylinder Perkins there's plenty of power available if needed.
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Post by kris on Mar 26, 2017 16:42:56 GMT
It would all depend on the condition of the hull, but this is the kind of boat I can imagine modifying to push a dumb boat. She would push a dumb barge without any problem with the 6 cylinder Perkins there's plenty of power available if needed.
Peter.
its only one of those ideas that you get sometimes, I'll stick with the boat I've got for a while anyway.
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Post by bargemast on Mar 26, 2017 18:12:01 GMT
She would push a dumb barge without any problem with the 6 cylinder Perkins there's plenty of power available if needed.
Peter.
its only one of those ideas that you get sometimes, I'll stick with the boat I've got for a while anyway. Sounds like a wise idea Kris, as you own your boat already, you don't have to invest in a boat that you don't really need now (or never).
I'm always looking at other boats myself too, but know that it would be stupid to go further than just only looking.
If I ever manage to sell my boats, and if I can find the courage and a place, I would like to build a new (probably ugly) short-fat boat to live on and CC with in France.
Short and fat because you pay for the lenght of the boat for the French Navigation Licence, and fore the time being they don'care about the beam.
Only if you want to pay for a mooring you pay for the square meters surface of your boat.
UK visiters with their narrowboat are punished with the price of their navigation permit as say a 60' boat has only a surface of 18m30 x 2m10 = 38.43 m2 you could get the same surface with a short-fat boat of 8m x 4m80, the difference in price is quite a bit, as the narrowboat has to pay 641€53 while the short-fat boat only has to pay 152€20, which is a difference of 489€39 for the same surface.
The short-fat boat won't be pretty (I think) but will give more living space Inside with a feeling of more room all around than the narrowboat.
For the time being, I can only dream about this project, in dreams everything is possible, and it doesn't cost anything, the slight problem is that I very rarely dream, I'm more familiar with nightmares.
In one of my nightmares in the night from friday on saterday last week my boat was on fire, and I woke up with a shock finding out that it was true, the whole cabin was full of smoke, I managed to extinguish it myself with difficulty, having to go outside for breathing some clean air all the time, waiting for the fire brigade wasn't an option, and they would just smash the whole Inside with their axes, and sink the boat, but I'm still alive and slowly repairing the damage.
Peter.
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Post by kris on Mar 26, 2017 18:25:58 GMT
its only one of those ideas that you get sometimes, I'll stick with the boat I've got for a while anyway. Sounds like a wise idea Kris, as you own your boat already, you don't have to invest in a boat that you don't really need now (or never).
I'm always looking at other boats myself too, but know that it would be stupid to go further than just only looking.
If I ever manage to sell my boats, and if I can find the courage and a place, I would like to build a new (probably ugly) short-fat boat to live on and CC with in France.
Short and fat because you pay for the lenght of the boat for the French Navigation Licence, and fore the time being they don'care about the beam.
Only if you want to pay for a mooring you pay for the square meters surface of your boat.
UK visiters with their narrowboat are punished with the price of their navigation permit as say a 60' boat has only a surface of 18m30 x 2m10 = 38.43 m2 you could get the same surface with a short-fat boat of 8m x 4m80, the difference in price is quite a bit, as the narrowboat has to pay 641€53 while the short-fat boat only has to pay 152€20, which is a difference of 489€39 for the same surface.
The short-fat boat won't be pretty (I think) but will give more living space Inside with a feeling of more room all around than the narrowboat.
For the time being, I can only dream about this project, in dreams everything is possible, and it doesn't cost anything, the slight problem is that I very rarely dream, I'm more familiar with nightmares.
In one of my nightmares in the night from friday on saterday last week my boat was on fire, and I woke up with a shock finding out that it was true, the whole cabin was full of smoke, I managed to extinguish it myself with difficulty, having to go outside for breathing some clean air all the time, waiting for the fire brigade wasn't an option, and they would just smash the whole Inside with their axes, and sink the boat, but I'm still alive and slowly repairing the damage.
Peter.
that sounds like it's lucky your still alive Peter. It's one of the worse fears on a boat, fire. You have to count your blessings, at least you can still dream of your short fat boat. What about something like the quidion. That project that you told me about.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 18:28:33 GMT
Bloody hell!
I hope it all goes well with the tidying up. That sounds horrible!
I sometimes have nightmares about the boat sinking. Usually in the dreams it just turns upside down rapidly. Quite alarming but has not happened so far!!
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Post by bargemast on Mar 26, 2017 18:41:47 GMT
Sounds like a wise idea Kris, as you own your boat already, you don't have to invest in a boat that you don't really need now (or never).
I'm always looking at other boats myself too, but know that it would be stupid to go further than just only looking.
If I ever manage to sell my boats, and if I can find the courage and a place, I would like to build a new (probably ugly) short-fat boat to live on and CC with in France.
Short and fat because you pay for the lenght of the boat for the French Navigation Licence, and fore the time being they don'care about the beam.
Only if you want to pay for a mooring you pay for the square meters surface of your boat.
UK visiters with their narrowboat are punished with the price of their navigation permit as say a 60' boat has only a surface of 18m30 x 2m10 = 38.43 m2 you could get the same surface with a short-fat boat of 8m x 4m80, the difference in price is quite a bit, as the narrowboat has to pay 641€53 while the short-fat boat only has to pay 152€20, which is a difference of 489€39 for the same surface.
The short-fat boat won't be pretty (I think) but will give more living space Inside with a feeling of more room all around than the narrowboat.
For the time being, I can only dream about this project, in dreams everything is possible, and it doesn't cost anything, the slight problem is that I very rarely dream, I'm more familiar with nightmares.
In one of my nightmares in the night from friday on saterday last week my boat was on fire, and I woke up with a shock finding out that it was true, the whole cabin was full of smoke, I managed to extinguish it myself with difficulty, having to go outside for breathing some clean air all the time, waiting for the fire brigade wasn't an option, and they would just smash the whole Inside with their axes, and sink the boat, but I'm still alive and slowly repairing the damage.
Peter.
that sounds like it's lucky your still alive Peter. It's one of the worse fears on a boat, fire. You have to count your blessings, at least you can still dream of your short fat boat. What about something like the quidion. That project that you told me about. Yes, something like that would do me fine, but there's a lot to be done first, and it may never happen anyway, but as I was saying dreaming is (sometimes) possible.
Peter.
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