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Post by metanoia on Sept 16, 2023 16:11:19 GMT
Someone in the paper was saying they have a bully xl in their home with their 9 month old child, and it is as gentle as gentle can be with the baby. Whether that is an accident waiting to happen I don’t know. I think the important point is that a shitzu or pug is unlikely ever to kill anyone regardless of its temperament, whereas a bully xl could fairly easily if it was in the mood. A law that says nasty ill-tempered aggressive dogs are banned, nice dogs are ok, is never going to work because you can’t tell by looking and a dog’s behaviour can change in an instant. So there are 2 choices, we either ban types of dogs that have the potential and statistical probability to be dangerous, or we wait until someone is injured or killed and then say “Oh dear, arrest the owner and that dog is dangerous, it must be killed”. Stable door bolted after horse departed. Of course society is generally sick when it considers dogs to be more important than other humans, but that is the current state. My dog never shits without me clearing it up. My dog is just being playful. My dog is under perfect control and so doesn’t need to be on a lead in this field of sheep. I hear this all the time but it is fallacy. Bring bag the dog wardens I say! Enforce dogs on leads in public places. The third choice, and what I was alluding to, was regulating the people who have dogs. You cannot simply buy a gun because you want one. You cannot simply drive because it's fun. Regulation of owners would be better than regulating the breeds. Rog I often think people should have a licence to breed/be a parent for fairly similar reasons....
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Post by fi on Sept 16, 2023 17:08:49 GMT
The third choice, and what I was alluding to, was regulating the people who have dogs. You cannot simply buy a gun because you want one. You cannot simply drive because it's fun. Regulation of owners would be better than regulating the breeds. Rog I often think people should have a licence to breed/be a parent for fairly similar reasons.... Gets close to social engineering though once you start thinking about it though....
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Post by Jim on Sept 16, 2023 17:34:56 GMT
I often think people should have a licence to breed/be a parent for fairly similar reasons.... Gets close to social engineering though once you start thinking about it though.... Well, yes, but just think of the benefits, any hint of a grasping Tory gene, off with their bollocks.
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Post by metanoia on Sept 16, 2023 17:48:37 GMT
I often think people should have a licence to breed/be a parent for fairly similar reasons.... Gets close to social engineering though once you start thinking about it though.... Surely preferable to the current "anti social" engineering our society is now enduring, if you even begin to think about it......
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Post by fi on Sept 16, 2023 17:53:27 GMT
Gets close to social engineering though once you start thinking about it though.... Surely preferable to the current "anti social engineering" our society is now enduring, if you even begin to think about it...... Just my opinion, but NO, NO, and NO again. Bugger off to China if you think that sort of thing is acceptable.
(not meant as a personal attack, just my view on social engineering)
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Post by metanoia on Sept 16, 2023 18:04:35 GMT
Surely preferable to the current "anti social engineering" our society is now enduring, if you even begin to think about it...... Just my opinion, but NO, NO, and NO again. Bugger off to China if you think that sort of thing is acceptable.
(not meant as a personal attack, just my view on social engineering)
I am against social engineering as much as the next right minded person. I have a great and dear Chinese friend who was only ever allowed one child. I just despair at the plethora of government sponsored single mothers with four children of different colours, none of whom seems to know the first thing about interacting with the rest of the world, never mind reading and writing - who turn up at school unable to wipe their own bum, use a knife and fork, etc etc. I queued in a supermarket behind a strange young thing yesterday with the requisite tattoos, baby in pushchair, another overactive kid of indeterminate sex being a pta to everyone else in the shop - horrified at what they bought and what it cost.
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Post by Aloysius on Sept 16, 2023 18:07:32 GMT
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Post by Aloysius on Sept 16, 2023 18:09:24 GMT
Just my opinion, but NO, NO, and NO again. Bugger off to China if you think that sort of thing is acceptable.
(not meant as a personal attack, just my view on social engineering)
what they bought and what it cost Which was?
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Post by fi on Sept 16, 2023 18:09:42 GMT
Where would you rather be.
Each system has it's drawbacks.
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Post by metanoia on Sept 16, 2023 18:12:48 GMT
what they bought and what it cost Which was? A pack of pappy white bread rolls, a tin of hot dogs, a tin of the cheapest baked beans, a multipack of Coke (the drink) and a can of Red Bull. £5.28.
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Post by metanoia on Sept 16, 2023 18:14:01 GMT
Where would you rather be.
Each system has it's drawbacks.
Of course we all know where we'd rather be. Doesn't make it right or fair though.
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Post by on Sept 16, 2023 18:45:22 GMT
A pack of pappy white bread rolls, a tin of hot dogs, a tin of the cheapest baked beans, a multipack of Coke (the drink) and a can of Red Bull. £5.28. Ready Steady Cook innit. Make your dinner out of that ya cunt.
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Post by on Sept 16, 2023 18:46:13 GMT
Very relieved to hear the shop wasn't selling class A gear !
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Post by Aloysius on Sept 16, 2023 19:05:23 GMT
A pack of pappy white bread rolls, a tin of hot dogs, a tin of the cheapest baked beans, a multipack of Coke (the drink) and a can of Red Bull. £5.28. I'm sensing a wee bit of cultural bias here. Maybe she was skint. Maybe she was stocked up on lentils. And I always buy the cheapest baked beans. Asda beans taste loads nicer than Heinz.
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Post by on Sept 16, 2023 19:11:58 GMT
OMG you shop in Asda?
Goodness.
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