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Post by on Sept 3, 2023 19:08:55 GMT
I think the illegal immigrant thing is going to get a whole lot more interesting in the run up to the election as the Tories try to get votes.
Saving the kids from terrible deaths in all those falling down buildings isn't going to work !
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Post by Jim on Sept 4, 2023 7:16:24 GMT
70% or so prove to be genuine refugees, so you need to revise that figure. Just calling them "illegal", ignoring international law, doesn't make it so. They are immigrants who entered illegally therfore they are illegal immigrants. 70% may make successful asylum applications but that doesn't change the facts before hand. There is a right under international law to seek asylum. The fact that small minded tory little islanders "decree" it's not valid changes nothing. Provide accessible safe routes for the 70% we agree are genuine. The "next available country" rule is just a get out for those who don't want to pull their weight.
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Post by thebfg on Sept 5, 2023 12:04:12 GMT
They are immigrants who entered illegally therfore they are illegal immigrants. 70% may make successful asylum applications but that doesn't change the facts before hand. There is a right under international law to seek asylum. The fact that small minded tory little islanders "decree" it's not valid changes nothing. Provide accessible safe routes for the 70% we agree are genuine. The "next available country" rule is just a get out for those who don't want to pull their weight. What are you on about? Some of them pay smugglers 1000s to enter. Why don't they just hop on Ryan Air amd claim Asylum at gatwick( or more probably luton)
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Post by on Sept 5, 2023 12:21:24 GMT
I've lived in a high immigrant area for quite a while. Inner East London. Yes a lot of the Bangalis have been here for a long time but there are new bags as well.
The point is that people who come from terrible 3rd world shithole countries it is in their psychology to simply take as much as they can. Forget manners just grab and take.
This is understandable in a country where you have to do this to survive but this country is not yet one of those places.
Some people might find this annexation of resources and basic rudeness a bit difficult to deal with and the point is that this kind of behaviour, when it is organised, is detrimental to others with a more mild and non aggressive outlook.
You'll basically get trampled and pushed out of public services.
It is happening. It is not racist to point out reality.
Of course over time things can change in theory but you have to remember the mindset of the people who are arriving. They are in survival mode. If you get a lot of people in survival mode you get a dangerous situation..
No I'm not Enoch Powell and yes my kids go to a school where they are part of 0.1% of white people of English descent.
I hate the rudeness and the queueueue jumping but there we are.
All the best people jump the queue as someone once said.
Maybe it is best to just be rude rather than mild mannered.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 5, 2023 18:00:32 GMT
They are immigrants who entered illegally therfore they are illegal immigrants. 70% may make successful asylum applications but that doesn't change the facts before hand. There is a right under international law to seek asylum. The fact that small minded tory little islanders "decree" it's not valid changes nothing. Provide accessible safe routes for the 70% we agree are genuine. The "next available country" rule is just a get out for those who don't want to pull their weight. Overpopulation benefits the controlling class- landowners, landlords, factory owners etc- to the detriment of the Working Class. It's no wonder a Blairite Tory such as yourself is so supportive of it. Also, have you never noticed in the photographs, that all of these "refugees" in the dinghies are young men of fighting age? So why don't they stay at home and fight for freedom?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2023 18:17:36 GMT
They are immigrants who entered illegally therfore they are illegal immigrants. 70% may make successful asylum applications but that doesn't change the facts before hand. There is a right under international law to seek asylum. The fact that small minded tory little islanders "decree" it's not valid changes nothing. Provide accessible safe routes for the 70% we agree are genuine. The "next available country" rule is just a get out for those who don't want to pull their weight. They ain't asylum seekers, they are illegal fuckin migrant scum. The likes of care for calais and left wing loonies evidently see them as good shagging fodder.
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Post by fi on Sept 5, 2023 18:22:25 GMT
There is a right under international law to seek asylum. The fact that small minded tory little islanders "decree" it's not valid changes nothing. Provide accessible safe routes for the 70% we agree are genuine. The "next available country" rule is just a get out for those who don't want to pull their weight. They ain't asylum seekers, they are illegal fuckin migrant scum. The likes of care for calais and left wing loonies evidently see them as good shagging fodder. If I ask nicely, will you remove your tag line/signature?
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Post by Jim on Sept 5, 2023 18:24:13 GMT
There is a right under international law to seek asylum. The fact that small minded tory little islanders "decree" it's not valid changes nothing. Provide accessible safe routes for the 70% we agree are genuine. The "next available country" rule is just a get out for those who don't want to pull their weight. Overpopulation benefits the controlling class- landowners, landlords, factory owners etc- to the detriment of the Working Class. It's no wonder a Blairite Tory such as yourself is so supportive of it. Also, have you never noticed in the photographs, that all of these "refugees" in the dinghies are young men of fighting age? So why don't they stay at home and fight for freedom? Struggling with facts again, they are not all young men, women and children come on the boats too. I'd be happy for more houses to be built and rents to fall, as I said earlier. I'd rather see people housed in decent houses, be they rented or owned. Bring back the Rent Office, where rents are set by the rent officer, they were also secure tenancies, where even if the property changes hands the tenant remains. I bought one such property the man had inherited the 1955 tenancy from his father. The rent could go up by an agreed annual percentage or if major improvements were made. If your boat sank you'd have to move into rented, presumably. Would you prefer a Riley to a Rachman as a landlord?
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Post by Jim on Sept 5, 2023 18:27:09 GMT
There is a right under international law to seek asylum. The fact that small minded tory little islanders "decree" it's not valid changes nothing. Provide accessible safe routes for the 70% we agree are genuine. The "next available country" rule is just a get out for those who don't want to pull their weight. They ain't asylum seekers, they are illegal fuckin migrant scum. The likes of care for calais and left wing loonies evidently see them as good shagging fodder. Ah, the blind and ignorant old gimmer, missed the fact that 70% are genuine refugees in need of help. There's always some selfish twat who only cares for himself.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2023 18:27:56 GMT
Overpopulation benefits the controlling class- landowners, landlords, factory owners etc- to the detriment of the Working Class. It's no wonder a Blairite Tory such as yourself is so supportive of it. Also, have you never noticed in the photographs, that all of these "refugees" in the dinghies are young men of fighting age? So why don't they stay at home and fight for freedom? Struggling with facts again, they are not all young men, women and children come on the boats too. You're either incredibly stupid, or plain blind. Most of the fuss comes about from the fact that the overwhelming majority are young men. Stop lying in order to bolster your woke shite.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2023 18:28:45 GMT
They ain't asylum seekers, they are illegal fuckin migrant scum. The likes of care for calais and left wing loonies evidently see them as good shagging fodder. Ah, the blind and ignorant old gimmer, missed the fact that 70% are genuine refugees in need of help. There's always some selfish twat who only cares for himself. Stop bullshitting you stupid cunt.
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Post by fi on Sept 5, 2023 18:29:02 GMT
Struggling with facts again, they are not all young men, women and children come on the boats too. You're either incredibly stupid, or plain blind. Most of the fuss comes about from the fact that the overwhelming majority are young men. Stop lying in order to bolster your woke shite. If I ask nicely, will you remove your tag line/signature?
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Post by fi on Sept 5, 2023 18:29:23 GMT
Ah, the blind and ignorant old gimmer, missed the fact that 70% are genuine refugees in need of help. There's always some selfish twat who only cares for himself. Stop bullshitting you stupid cunt. If I ask nicely, will you remove your tag line/signature?
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 5, 2023 18:40:08 GMT
Overpopulation benefits the controlling class- landowners, landlords, factory owners etc- to the detriment of the Working Class. It's no wonder a Blairite Tory such as yourself is so supportive of it. Also, have you never noticed in the photographs, that all of these "refugees" in the dinghies are young men of fighting age? So why don't they stay at home and fight for freedom? Struggling with facts again, they are not all young men, women and children come on the boats too. Course they do Jim. About a 50/50 mix would you say? You're being played Mate. Here are the facts.
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Post by on Sept 5, 2023 19:58:34 GMT
It is shit having to deal with american foreign policy.
Gaddafi was some sort of cunt but he knew his shit.
Bloody yanks.
Far far away.
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