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Post by Telemachus on Mar 24, 2024 20:26:06 GMT
Anyway, back to the dead Russians. Did they deserve it? 183 concert goers died. They must have gone there full of joy, excitement, expectation and looking forward to a fun evening. Horrible and unnecessary. Rog 183 died. How terrible. Remind me how many Russians have died in the Ukraine invasion attempt? Apparently it is between 290,000 and 450,000. And 31,000 Ukrainian soldiers. Which is quite a lot and makes the 184 deaths, insignificant. Why focus on 183 and ignore the other hundreds of thousands? It’s weird. |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 24, 2024 20:30:13 GMT
183 concert goers died. They must have gone there full of joy, excitement, expectation and looking forward to a fun evening. Horrible and unnecessary. Rog Remind me how many Russians have died in the Ukraine invasion attempt? Apparently it is between 290,000 and 450,000. And 31,000 Ukrainian soldiers. And you believe those numbers, do you? You believe that for every Ukrainian soldier who dies, ten Russian soldiers die? |
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Post by dogless on Mar 24, 2024 20:34:52 GMT
183 concert goers died. They must have gone there full of joy, excitement, expectation and looking forward to a fun evening. Horrible and unnecessary. Rog 183 died. How terrible. Remind me how many Russians have died in the Ukraine invasion attempt? Apparently it is between 290,000 and 450,000. And 31,000 Ukrainian soldiers. Which is quite a lot and makes the 184 deaths, insignificant. Why focus on 183 and ignore the other hundreds of thousands? It’s weird. The 183 were simply going to a concert ... like you and Jeff going to Strictly Live. You asked the question. I replied. If you didn't want answers why ask ? Rog |
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 24, 2024 20:36:35 GMT
Remind me how many Russians have died in the Ukraine invasion attempt? Apparently it is between 290,000 and 450,000. And 31,000 Ukrainian soldiers. And you believe those numbers, do you? You believe that for every Ukrainian soldier who dies, ten Russian soldiers die? I believe those numbers are a lot more than 183. Yes it does seem quite a big discrepancy. In part it can be explained by the Russian forces being made up of prisoners and conscripts who were badly trained and unmotivated to invade a foreign country, vs highly motivated Ukrainians fighting on home soil. If one you had paid attention when the film “Home Alone” was on, you would know what an advantage fighting on your own territory is. But yes there is no doubt some political flex on both sides. Who knows? Well of course you do, with your phenomenal intelligence and intimate friendship with most of the Ukrainian population. Do tell! |
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 24, 2024 20:39:00 GMT
183 died. How terrible. Remind me how many Russians have died in the Ukraine invasion attempt? Apparently it is between 290,000 and 450,000. And 31,000 Ukrainian soldiers. Which is quite a lot and makes the 184 deaths, insignificant. Why focus on 183 and ignore the other hundreds of thousands? It’s weird. The 183 were simply going to a concert ... like you and Jeff going to Strictly Live. You asked the question. I replied. If you didn't want answers why ask ? Rog Why ask? In order to obtain your view. Predictable though it is. What about the chunk of the 290-450k who were just going to a concert when the Russian draft got them and sent them off to the front line? Don’t they matter? |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 24, 2024 20:43:24 GMT
Come back when you're sober Nick.
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 24, 2024 20:45:58 GMT
Come back when you're sober Nick. You’d miss me. But anyway I’m back. Sober as a judge, |
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 24, 2024 20:48:37 GMT
No idea about the actual numbers then?
No I thought not,
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Post by dogless on Mar 24, 2024 21:21:10 GMT
Anyway, back to the dead Russians. Did they deserve it? Clearly you've forgotten your question, so to remind you here it is. No they didn't. They were simply going to a concert ... not soldiers ... not political ... just going to a concert. Like those at the Manchester Arena ... speaking a different language is the only difference. Many people die every day ... but you didn't ask about them, you specifically asked about the concert goers. Rog |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 24, 2024 21:25:43 GMT
The thing is, lots of Russian and Ukrainian soldiers, along with Ukrainian civilians have been dying on a regular basis since 2022 or perhaps, since 2014. Reporting the deaths of 200 more each day wouldn't be newsworthy. The news thrives on fresh, new content. It's just the way the news is. It's not a guage of sympathy.
When covid first hit the death of a few people caused headlines, grief, predictions of impending doom, the lot. A few months on, reporting on the death of hundreds was limited to graphics. Line charts, bar graphs with the solemn broadcaster always stating the required precursor 'tragically'. It was barely newsworthy anymore, the headlines were all about politicians having illegal get togethers. Plus of course, the personal movements of Dominic Cummings.
The goings on in Russia are fresh news. That's it. Worry not, it will all soon be forgotten.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 24, 2024 22:28:23 GMT
No idea about the actual numbers then? No I thought not, No more idea than you although I am far lees gullible and sceptical of propaganda and fake news. But then you fell for the Covid scam hook, line and sinker so it's nothing new. |
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 24, 2024 23:14:37 GMT
No idea about the actual numbers then? No I thought not, No more idea than you although I am far lees gullible and sceptical of propaganda and fake news. But then you fell for the Covid scam hook, line and sinker so it's nothing new. Ah yes, I had temporarily forgotten that you are a conspiracy theorist nutter. So no point in giving credence to anything you say. |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 25, 2024 6:06:13 GMT
I see four suspects have already appeared in court. All showing signs of severe torture/ beating. One appears to be missing an eye.
I wonder if human rights lawyers in Russia are preparing their cases. Such beatings, clearly illegal, should exonerate them from all charges. I doubt their success. It don't think that Russia subscribes to a system where minor indiscretions by goverment (relative to the bigger picture) should lead to a collapse in all changes due to said individuals, under law.
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Post by thebfg on Mar 25, 2024 7:45:44 GMT
If they walk free, I don't think it would be for long.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 25, 2024 7:50:25 GMT
If they walk free, I don't think it would be for long. Indeed. In many places but in Russia, most especially. They should have moved to Britain. They could have claimed victimhood at the hands of a brutal government. A claim for compensation, perhaps. The public would have supported them, via legal aid, with the very best lawyers on their case. |
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