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Post by thebfg on Apr 18, 2024 9:20:01 GMT
There has been talk of this for years.
I doubt it will ever happen.
The effect of this is smoking will be outlawed but people who are old enough to smoke will be able to carry on.
I don't think the country could afford to completely ban it yet.
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Post by Telemachus on Apr 18, 2024 10:47:00 GMT
There has been talk of this for years. I doubt it will ever happen. The effect of this is smoking will be outlawed but people who are old enough to smoke will be able to carry on. I don't think the country could afford to completely ban it yet. No I don't think it would be feasible to ban all smoking completely, but the idea of preventing (attempting to prevent) young people starting down a path of dangerous addiction, seems a good compromise.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Apr 18, 2024 10:49:32 GMT
There has been talk of this for years. I doubt it will ever happen. The effect of this is smoking will be outlawed but people who are old enough to smoke will be able to carry on. I don't think the country could afford to completely ban it yet. No I don't think it would be feasible to ban all smoking completely, but the idea of preventing (attempting to prevent) young people starting down a path of dangerous addiction, seems a good compromise. Would you object to an identical new law for alcohol? Alcohol misuse is responsible for many deaths. It's also responsible for a great deal of anti social behaviour. Unlike smoking, which isn't, other than being a minor irritation.
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Post by Telemachus on Apr 18, 2024 10:56:03 GMT
No I don't think it would be feasible to ban all smoking completely, but the idea of preventing (attempting to prevent) young people starting down a path of dangerous addiction, seems a good compromise. Would you object to an identical new law for alcohol? Alcohol misuse is responsible for many deaths. It's also responsible for a great deal of anti social behaviour. Unlike smoking, which isn't, other than being a minor irritation. Obviously such a new law for alcohol wouldn't affect me directly. But as I explained earlier, there is a safe level of alcohol consumption whereas there is no safe level of cigarette smoking. I would agree that alcohol misuse is problematic, but the solution would be to properly apply the existing laws such as it being a licensing offence to serve someone alcohol who is drunk, and being drunk and disorderly in a public place. In this country we seem to tolerate seeing druken hordes causing mayhem on the streets of a Saturday night. In other countries, public displays of drunkeness are not tolerated by the cops.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Apr 18, 2024 10:59:04 GMT
In other countries, people have no desire to get drunk and make idiots of themselves on the streets. It's a cultural thing.
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Post by Telemachus on Apr 18, 2024 11:01:37 GMT
In other countries, people have no desire to get drunk and make idiots of themselves on the streets. It's a cultural thing. Yes it certainly is. The need is therefore to tackle the culture of drunkenness, not to outlaw alcohol altogether. And bearing in mind you can make alcohol in you kitchen, whereas you can't make tobacco, a ban on importing cigarettes would be feasible whereas a ban on the consumption of alcohol could never work (see USA prohibition for a clue!).
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Post by fi on Apr 18, 2024 11:04:46 GMT
Just issue ration vouchers for alcohol to everyone, 14 units per week allowed, all vouchers can only be spent in the week they are issued. Problem resolved, no one would be able to drink above the safe limit. Everyone happy...
And while we are about it, let's come up with a similar system for gambling...
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Post by dogless on Apr 18, 2024 11:06:25 GMT
With smoking down to 16% or less perhaps processed and fatty foods is a bigger public health threat than cigs.
But such bans aren't something government should be involved in are they ?
It's a government not your mother 😁
Rog
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Post by fi on Apr 18, 2024 11:09:15 GMT
In other countries, people have no desire to get drunk and make idiots of themselves on the streets. It's a cultural thing. Yes it certainly is. The need is therefore to tackle the culture of drunkenness, not to outlaw alcohol altogether. And bearing in mind you can make alcohol in you kitchen, whereas you can't make tobacco, a ban on importing cigarettes would be feasible whereas a ban on the consumption of alcohol could never work (see USA prohibition for a clue!). Maybe not in your kitchen but it's legal to grow and prepare tobacco in the UK for your own use.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Apr 18, 2024 11:13:27 GMT
In other countries, people have no desire to get drunk and make idiots of themselves on the streets. It's a cultural thing. Yes it certainly is. The need is therefore to tackle the culture of drunkenness, not to outlaw alcohol altogether. And bearing in mind you can make alcohol in you kitchen, whereas you can't make tobacco, a ban on importing cigarettes would be feasible whereas a ban on the consumption of alcohol could never work (see USA prohibition for a clue!). You can however make vape juice in your kitchen. Using components from the food industry. I do this myself.
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Post by dogless on Apr 18, 2024 15:30:25 GMT
Looks like vaping has overtaken cigs Rog
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Post by Clinton Cool on Apr 18, 2024 16:41:17 GMT
Looks like vaping has overtaken cigs Rog You'd expect the lowest proportion of smokers to be in the over 65's group. They all dead init.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Apr 18, 2024 16:42:54 GMT
By the way, does anyone want to buy any Drum hand rolling tobacco?
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Post by dogless on Apr 18, 2024 16:52:29 GMT
Another point from the wedding ... it was primarily the youngsters doing the smoking / vaping.
Just from general observation I would suggest older smokers / vapers are less common ... I guess many of us have done it in the past but given up.
Rog
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