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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 18:08:20 GMT
I said she has a co2 monitor, and a wood burning stove for heat, not gas only gas for cooking Gas cookers are ok. CO2 is what is exhausted when humans breathe out. Totally different hanimal to CO Anyway. I hate bridges
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 18:09:05 GMT
Would a gas generator be an idea?? I've not tried a LPG generator myself but I have heard they are a bit awkward to start. Not sure if there is much difference in CO output (someone will know this ) If for example a Honda EU20i was comfortable to use on a daily basis on LPG then it could well be a good option. I don't know if the EU series of Honda generators will be available after article 50. ? I've an EU20i - it's a bit of a lump when full of petrol, although lighter than all its competitors it still weighs the same as a bag of cement! The smaller 1000w inverter Genny are a bit easier to lug about, and in the absence of an immersion or washing machine I can't see any reason to go bigger. Petrol engines, fuel storage etc are perfectly safe to use when common sense is applied, sadly this isn't always the case A Genny must never be run onboard the boat, if you think there is a chance it might get nicked from the towpath move or use torches. The security of A Β£300+ Genny isnt worth trading your life for. Not all of this is in reply to MagnetMan
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 18:13:35 GMT
I've not tried a LPG generator myself but I have heard they are a bit awkward to start. Not sure if there is much difference in CO output (someone will know this ) If for example a Honda EU20i was comfortable to use on a daily basis on LPG then it could well be a good option. I don't know if the EU series of Honda generators will be available after article 50. ? I've an EU20i - it's a bit of a lump when full of petrol, although lighter than all its competitors it still weighs the same as a bag of cement! The smaller 1000w inverter Genny are a bit easier to lug about, and in the absence of an immersion or washing machine I can't see any reason to go bigger. Petrol engines, fuel storage etc are perfectly safe to use when common sense is applied, sadly this isn't always the case A Genny must never be run onboard the boat, if you think there is a chance it might get nicked from the towpath move or use torches. The security of A Β£300+ Genny isnt worth trading your life for. I've had an eu10i and an eu20i and used them for my charging. They do tend to shriek a bit given some load. Run at a low output I don't really mind them but I found Honda's move in the late 90s from heavy duty gear to modern lightweight equipment a bit rude. I still have a nice EX650 genny as a backup so it will be OK . Anyway not sure my comments are that relevant.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 18:16:41 GMT
Good evening, A question relating to a narrow boat with 9.9 Yamaha outboard motor. This boat has 250w low level solar panel with Secca controller and breaker Two 110ah leisure Batteries The solar is the only way to charge the leisures! Is there a way to also charge the leisures from the outboard when cruising or is the motor too weak?? Thank you A small Honda genny, and 20amp charger I would suggest. Get someone to show her where she can run it on the boat, make sure it's secured, and advise her on the issues on petrol etc. It's all about using a bit of common sense, and once she has the idea, she will be fine. Is she on the Grand Union, or elsewhere?
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Post by serena on Dec 1, 2016 18:25:06 GMT
Thanks everybody! Unless anybody comes up with a reason why a gas generator would be better, I shall buy her a genny and charger I guess! Bank of mum!π And Yes she has a petrol locker Thank you allππ
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Post by serena on Dec 1, 2016 18:25:57 GMT
She's on the Lea in London
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 18:27:28 GMT
I've an EU20i - it's a bit of a lump when full of petrol, although lighter than all its competitors it still weighs the same as a bag of cement! The smaller 1000w inverter Genny are a bit easier to lug about, and in the absence of an immersion or washing machine I can't see any reason to go bigger. Petrol engines, fuel storage etc are perfectly safe to use when common sense is applied, sadly this isn't always the case A Genny must never be run onboard the boat, if you think there is a chance it might get nicked from the towpath move or use torches. The security of A Β£300+ Genny isnt worth trading your life for. I've had an eu10i and an eu20i and used them for my charging. They do tend to shriek a bit given some load. Run at a low output I don't really mind them but I found Honda's move in the late 90s from heavy duty gear to modern lightweight equipment a bit rude. I still have a nice EX650 genny as a backup so it will be OK . Anyway not sure my comments are that relevant. Oh I don't know, I couldn't see anything wrong with your input, just wanted to make it clear I wasn't only waffling on at you BTW, You swine!! The EX650 is an absolutely ace bit of kit. We out grew ours and I let it go when I really should have kept hold of it. While I'm working on the boat this winter I'm using my angry Clarke 1000g as it's powerful enough to run the 110v Mag Drill and a 150w halogen lamp. I've a 650w kettle so don't go short for a brew either Couldn't see the point of using the Honda when I didn't need that much juice, might as well wear the nasty Clarke out!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 18:29:29 GMT
She's on the Lea in London OK, if she is on Facebook, get her to join the London boaters page, someone from there will help her to sort it. I'd do it, but am heading away from London now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 18:33:58 GMT
I've had an eu10i and an eu20i and used them for my charging. They do tend to shriek a bit given some load. Run at a low output I don't really mind them but I found Honda's move in the late 90s from heavy duty gear to modern lightweight equipment a bit rude. I still have a nice EX650 genny as a backup so it will be OK . Anyway not sure my comments are that relevant. Oh I don't know, I couldn't see anything wrong with your input, just wanted to make it clear I wasn't only waffling on at you BTW, You swine!! The EX650 is an absolutely ace bit of kit. We out grew ours and I let it go when I really should have kept hold of it. While I'm working on the boat this winter I'm using my angry Clarke 1000g as it's powerful enough to run the 110v Mag Drill and a 150w halogen lamp. I've a 650w kettle so don't go short for a brew either Couldn't see the point of using the Honda when I didn't need that much juice, might as well wear the nasty Clarke out! Just to be really annoying I also have a Kawasaki GD700AS . An electric start suitcase generator for incredibly lazy <word removed>ers
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Post by serena on Dec 1, 2016 18:34:31 GMT
Thanks jenlynπ Still quite interested to know if anyone has knowledge of lpg generators tho! Cheers
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Post by tonyqj on Dec 1, 2016 18:36:50 GMT
Thanks jenlynπ Still quite interested to know if anyone has knowledge of lpg generators tho! Cheers Someone did answer that - he believed they are somewhat more difficult to start. Why not ask the opinion of the generator supplier?
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Post by geo on Dec 1, 2016 18:39:54 GMT
Thanks jenlynπ Still quite interested to know if anyone has knowledge of lpg generators tho! Cheers Yes Most petrol generators can be converted to gas. Gas kits are available
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 18:40:51 GMT
I think LPG generators are more suitable for bigger boats with bigger power requirements.
As I said I have not actually used them but the only circumstances where I have heard of them being worthwhile are generator above about 2kw and I don't see that being needed for a 20ft boat. As Jenlyn said a small generator and a 20 amp charger will be OK.
Nice to have a bit of disscussion on the forum anyway
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Post by serena on Dec 1, 2016 18:42:45 GMT
Thanks Tonyqj, but he said he didn't have personal knowledge of them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 18:42:50 GMT
Thanks jenlynπ Still quite interested to know if anyone has knowledge of lpg generators tho! Cheers I set my Honda up for lpg. I kept a log on it. To be honest, it was no cheaper than petrol, the only benefit was not having to store petrol. A small Honda or kipor suitcase genny will only require a five litre petrol container. A 20amp charger, and suitcase genny will average about 3-5 litres of petrol a week on her two batteries, running it for an hour and a half to two hours a night. To use lpg, you would need the bigger suitcase genny, Honda, or kipor. She doesn't need the bigger ones, unless she ups the number of batteries.
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