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Post by Jim on Feb 15, 2017 9:38:40 GMT
Read in another thread that someone came across a dry pound, let water in from nearest full pound but rang CRT to tell them. What do you do if you come across a problem, ring CRT and wait, fix it yourself, presuming it's within your capacity, and would you ring CRT.
I've let water down, fixed lock gear that was out of flunter, raked cills, cleared bywash overflows etc, but then just get on my way.
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Post by kris on Feb 15, 2017 9:43:50 GMT
Read in another thread that someone came across a dry pound, let water in from nearest full pound but rang CRT to tell them. What do you do if you come across a problem, ring CRT and wait, fix it yourself, presuming it's within your capacity, and would you ring CRT. I've let water down, fixed lock gear that was out of flunter, raked cills, cleared bywash overflows etc, but then just get on my way. i suppose it would depend on the severity of the problem, I think, clearing the by wash, kebbing behind gates and keeping an eye on levels on the pound your on are just the normal requirements of navigating. Well at least for me they are. Don't tend to have ago at any broken lock gear though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 9:51:52 GMT
As Kris says, it depends on the issue.
Electrical outage at Orton meant 5 hour delay waitning for the EA and eON to get the juice back on.
Earls Barton lock wouldn't make a level due to something under the guillotine gate on Sunday morning, out with a stout rope and a mooring pin to winch it open using a Spanish windlas technique, once on my way I called the EA to let them no there was an issue but didn't expand on how i solved the problem!
Tree's down in the river stop us dead, I have no gear on board to tackle that jb so that is a call and wait!
I'm equipped to deal with iffy cabinet looks etc, I wont let small things stop me but will tell the EA if they need to put things right for those that can not solve small problems for themselves.
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Post by Telemachus on Feb 15, 2017 9:57:03 GMT
Read in another thread that someone came across a dry pound, let water in from nearest full pound but rang CRT to tell them. What do you do if you come across a problem, ring CRT and wait, fix it yourself, presuming it's within your capacity, and would you ring CRT. I've let water down, fixed lock gear that was out of flunter, raked cills, cleared bywash overflows etc, but then just get on my way. I think there is a growing trend to phone CRT for trivial problems. I am of the opinion that if there is a low pound etc you just get on with sorting it, whilst being careful not to open too many paddles too much to avoid washing silt into the gate area. I'd only phone CRT under those circumstances if the reason for the low pound was obvious and beyond my ability to fix, e.g. a bloody great leak - in the hope that they would come along later and fix it. My early boating career was spent extricating the boat from various difficulties on the BCN, most of which was barely navigable at the time (1970s) and it never occurred to us to phone BW - no mobile phones anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 10:04:07 GMT
Read in another thread that someone came across a dry pound, let water in from nearest full pound but rang CRT to tell them. What do you do if you come across a problem, ring CRT and wait, fix it yourself, presuming it's within your capacity, and would you ring CRT. I've let water down, fixed lock gear that was out of flunter, raked cills, cleared bywash overflows etc, but then just get on my way. I know what you mean. Maybe the best solution is to let CRT know (if the help line is open) then offer to sort it if they can't. Like you we tend to sort it out ourselves but sometimes with water levels you can end up moving the problem further up the hill. I asked CRT a couple of years ago whether they would be willing to let some of us provide maintenance support on an official voluntary basis. I got completely blanked. It was at that point I realised those in charge of CRT aren't really interested in boaters.
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Post by kris on Feb 15, 2017 10:12:47 GMT
The thing is if you don't call in serious problems they don't get logged on the system. So then crt don't know about them, they won't go on the list to get fixed. So id recommend phoning them about more serious problems, a phone call from the public counts for a lot more than informing bank staff. If they get a few Phone calls about the same issue, then that issue rises up the to do list. So if you have problems that arent getting fixed in your area, it's worth getting a few like minded people to phone and bring the issue to their attention.
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 15, 2017 19:05:16 GMT
Tell them you're an important lawyer from Shoosmiths on a boat and they'll be up with you before you can say 'Bank Newton' ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 19:43:33 GMT
It was I that mentioned it, on the Napton flight.
We let water down from a long pound two locks up. Whilst this was happening, I reported the problem to C&RT, as being part of a flight of locks, whatever had caused the empty pound could be an issue for others, plus management of the water for the whole flight, is their responsibility, not mine.
C&RT staff were on hand quickly to seek out the cause of the problem.
By the time we were at the bottom of the flight, one of the guys reported that there had been a blockage on a by-wash further up the flight, which they'd cleared.
My responsibility was to get my boat through the low pound. But I didn't want others following at some point to encounter the same problem. That's the only reason I reported it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 19:48:38 GMT
On a similar tack, I was recently following another boat, at some distance. Struggled to see, as we rounded a bend, what exactly was going on up ahead. Turned out that the boat ahead was negotiating his way past a boat that had slipped his mooring. He carried on and left the boat adrift in his wash. We stopped, pulled it into the side and tied it to the piling (bank pins had gone). I hope if ever my boat is found adrift, someone other than that boater discovers it Rog
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 15, 2017 20:04:55 GMT
On a similar tack, I was recently following another boat, at some distance. Struggled to see, as we rounded a bend, what exactly was going on up ahead. Turned out that the boat ahead was negotiating his way past a boat that had slipped his mooring. He carried on and left the boat adrift in his wash. We stopped, pulled it into the side and tied it to the piling (bank pins had gone). I hope if ever my boat is found adrift, someone other than that boater discovers it Once again a case of 'name-&-shame' that boat in front of you! We have tied up a few loose boats - seems the obvious thing to do.
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Post by Telemachus on Feb 15, 2017 20:33:53 GMT
On a similar tack, I was recently following another boat, at some distance. Struggled to see, as we rounded a bend, what exactly was going on up ahead. Turned out that the boat ahead was negotiating his way past a boat that had slipped his mooring. He carried on and left the boat adrift in his wash. We stopped, pulled it into the side and tied it to the piling (bank pins had gone). I hope if ever my boat is found adrift, someone other than that boater discovers it Once again a case of 'name-&-shame' that boat in front of you! We have tied up a few loose boats - seems the obvious thing to do. We've tied up a few boats, but also left a few boats that were obviously tied up ridiculously badly. Folk need to learn that if they don't tie their boats up properly they'll go adrift. Not that it matters too much on a canal.
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Post by lollygagger on Feb 15, 2017 21:17:03 GMT
Once again a case of 'name-&-shame' that boat in front of you! We have tied up a few loose boats - seems the obvious thing to do. We've tied up a few boats, but also left a few boats that were obviously tied up ridiculously badly. Folk need to learn that if they don't tie their boats up properly they'll go adrift. Not that it matters too much on a canal. Leave them a comedy invoice for re-mooring properly or offering paid mooring tuition?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 21:22:45 GMT
Having stopped to tie up the adrift boat, I never found.
Rog
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Post by pearley on Feb 16, 2017 10:52:41 GMT
The thing is if you don't call in serious problems they don't get logged on the system. So then crt don't know about them, they won't go on the list to get fixed. So id recommend phoning them about more serious problems, a phone call from the public counts for a lot more than informing bank staff. If they get a few Phone calls about the same issue, then that issue rises up the to do list. So if you have problems that arent getting fixed in your area, it's worth getting a few like minded people to phone and bring the issue to their attention. Certainly the pounds between Factory Locks on the BCN always seemed empty when we came through them and we just refilled and got on our way. Then last year, on a facebook post, the BCNS said we should always report it otherwise it stays at the bottom of the list. On my winter cruises around the Northern BCN though, I've always reported problems as it is so underused it gives CRT a chance to do something before the next boat comes along.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 14:12:02 GMT
Winter cruising eh!!
Arrived at Bascote staircase to find the short pound between the staircase and the first single lock totally dry.
Had to run 30 mins of water through from the long pound behind us, but reported what we were doing and why to C&RT.
The water must have gone somewhere, but everything was normal but for that short pound.
Another surprise to me, was that I could actually see the long pound level drop as we ran water through. Such a long pound back to Stockton locks (mile and a half ish) I wouldn't have thought it would make that obvious a difference.
Rog
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