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Post by thebfg on Mar 27, 2017 18:07:37 GMT
That's the kinf of laugh we have. Unfortunately alcohol is not an illegal substance is it? So your morals are based entirely on the law? Is there anything about cannabis that makes it immoral other than its illegal status? That isn't usually how people decide on whether something is immoral or not. Is adultery immoral? It is legal after all... Is it possible to support something illegal and be morrally right and state you are ethical? However you can't support everything that is legal and stand by your morals. My views are not necessarily important. I am after my employers view. What do they think, that's important as a business that prides itself in being ethical. this is after what I see as they are making a stand on something but ignoring other things. We are refusing to see our name printed in some news papers but are happy to have those newspapers in our shops. I believe my initial question to the company stands. For the record I have no issue infact we had a dealer in our block. My morrals only became active when he started selling to kids.
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Post by thebfg on Mar 27, 2017 18:20:22 GMT
Its a lot of bollocks over nothing really just a personal attempt at answers from the business. How far are they prepared to go to back up their stance of proud to be ethical.
Some may say that one that has Allan Leighton as a non exec chairman may struggle to provide those answers
Just to clarify my morrals are rather loose.
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Post by kris on Mar 27, 2017 18:24:49 GMT
So your morals are based entirely on the law? Is there anything about cannabis that makes it immoral other than its illegal status? That isn't usually how people decide on whether something is immoral or not. Is adultery immoral? It is legal after all... Is it possible to support something illegal and be morrally right and state you are ethical? yes, think of some of the protesters that broke into american airbases and damaged planes. Their argument went something along the lines of a smaller wrong ( breaking and entering and criminal damage) was legitimate to stop a larger wrong ( dropping bombs on people.) surely the only moral thing to do when you see a law that s ethically wrong, is break it?
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Post by thebfg on Mar 27, 2017 18:58:26 GMT
surely the only moral thing to do when you see a law that s ethically wrong, is break it? Is that the key difference between morrals and ethics? So a different way of putting it would be,is it ethically right to ban certain drugs? If it isent then we can be morally right in helping them to smoke it. If it is then we should stand by our morrals and stop selling them. When I was younger I perefered the three skin way.
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Post by kris on Mar 27, 2017 19:05:43 GMT
surely the only moral thing to do when you see a law that s ethically wrong, is break it? Is that the key difference between morrals and ethics? So a different way of putting it would be,is it ethically right to ban certain drugs? If it isent then we can be morally right in helping them to smoke it. If it is then we should stand by our morrals and stop selling them. When I was younger I perefered the three skin way. its an interesting thing to think about. Personally I think it's all subjective. So you just have to think about what you think is morally right, then stick to it. So if you personally think it's wrong to sell king size rizzla, then take a stand and refuse to sell them. The 3 skin method is old Skool, before kingsise was common.
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Post by thebfg on Mar 27, 2017 19:27:39 GMT
Is that the key difference between morrals and ethics? So a different way of putting it would be,is it ethically right to ban certain drugs? If it isent then we can be morally right in helping them to smoke it. If it is then we should stand by our morrals and stop selling them. When I was younger I perefered the three skin way. its an interesting thing to think about. Personally I think it's all subjective. So you just have to think about what you think is morally right, then stick to it. So if you personally think it's wrong to sell king size rizzla, then take a stand and refuse to sell them. The 3 skin method is old Skool, before kingsise was common. I agree with you all the way. It is subjective that is why we want our leaders to define what is our way and stick to it. Not the wishy washy way it is now. Sorry to stall the pound talk. To get back on track i believe most machines would be able to take the new and the old as they can be easily reprogrammed. I wonder how our trollies and lockers will hold up and things that don't use electronics to work out a pound coin.
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Post by kris on Mar 27, 2017 19:30:43 GMT
its an interesting thing to think about. Personally I think it's all subjective. So you just have to think about what you think is morally right, then stick to it. So if you personally think it's wrong to sell king size rizzla, then take a stand and refuse to sell them. The 3 skin method is old Skool, before kingsise was common. I agree with you all the way. It is subjective that is why we want our leaders to define what is our way and stick to it. Not the wishy washy way it is now. I have to disagree, I don't need a "leader" to tell me what's morally right or wrong.
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Post by thebfg on Mar 27, 2017 19:51:44 GMT
I agree with you all the way. It is subjective that is why we want our leaders to define what is our way and stick to it. Not the wishy washy way it is now. I have to disagree, I don't need a "leader" to tell me what's morally right or wrong. Sorry it wasent about my ethics but the business I work for and a commitment from them as they do some ethical stuff in public. In private however. I know where I stand. Wow this quote thing is weird
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Post by thebfg on Mar 27, 2017 19:54:38 GMT
Sorry it wasent about my ethics but the business I work for and a commitment from them as they do some ethical stuff in public. In private however. I know where I stand. Wow this quote thing is weird The rizla thing is my way of putting that across to the business. I don't actually believe it.
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Post by kris on Mar 27, 2017 19:56:44 GMT
I understand what your saying now?
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Post by thebfg on Mar 27, 2017 20:01:19 GMT
I understand what your saying now? That's my inability to put things in writing. Sorry.im much better when I can really type it out a discussion forum isent ideal. I've opened my eyes though thanks to you and delta. Everyday a school day.
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Post by Stumpy on Mar 27, 2017 21:16:44 GMT
Will a shopping trolley accept the token thingy I keep on my keyring after tomorrow, or do I have to file twelve flats on it?
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Post by tonyqj on Mar 27, 2017 21:18:17 GMT
Will a shopping trolley accept the token thingy I keep on my keyring after tomorrow, or do I have to file twelve flats on it? Let us know 😉
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Post by Stumpy on Mar 27, 2017 21:25:44 GMT
I once knew an Irish forger. He used to file an English 50 pence piece into a 20p coin. Honest Guv' !!!
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Post by phil70 on Mar 27, 2017 23:20:40 GMT
One of the mad things I've done in my life was to buy a milk round. It was common for people to leave out their milk money in "the safe place" I would pick up the money in the dark quite often and would know immediately if the coins included a wrong'un. The same applied to notes. I guess handling the cash all the time allowed me to develop a sixth sense. Phil the real question is - could you do that whilst also scratching your bum? Certainly Phil
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