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Post by Delta9 on Mar 27, 2017 18:03:36 GMT
I've been listening to a debate on the radio this afternoon about how the government want some sort of back door into encrypted communications, specifically Whats App. Ignoring the fact that the government clearly have no idea how the technology they want to regulate works, I was quite surprised by how many people were calling in to the radio station in support of the government having access to all communications.
What are people's thoughts on the matter?
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Post by peterboat on Mar 27, 2017 18:11:38 GMT
I heard about this last night, I can understand why if it helps in the fight against terrorism but it does seem an invasion of our privacy. I would think it would have to be on key words, so most conversations would not be involved but it is the thin edge of the wedge
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 18:17:11 GMT
It's probably a smokescreen to disguise the fact that they already have a 'back door'.
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Post by JohnV on Mar 27, 2017 18:17:21 GMT
Like Peter, I'm torn both ways. I am always deeply suspicious of government motives when they seek extra powers and usually strongly resist any such move ....... however in this case I can see very clearly the value of it for anti terrorist action
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Post by Delta9 on Mar 27, 2017 18:18:08 GMT
I heard about this last night, I can understand why if it helps in the fight against terrorism but it does seem an invasion of our privacy. I would think it would have to be on key words, so most conversations would not be involved but it is the thin edge of the wedge Blanket surveillance is widely accepted to be ineffective as it just throws up so many false positives that it is impossible to sort through it all and find the actual threats. We have threads here that talk about terrorism and bombs that would get picked up by filters, but clearly we are not plotting anything. It would take a human to read through the thread and determine that. They can't employ enough humans to read everyone's communications. Not only is the government's idea impossible to implement, it would be completely ineffective if it was implemented. |
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Post by Delta9 on Mar 27, 2017 18:23:11 GMT
It's probably a smokescreen to disguise the fact that they already have a 'back door'. They don't already have a backdoor, we can be 100% sure of that. It would be impossible for them to break the encryption involved, even if they used every computer on earth. You can't put a backdoor in mathematics. Their ideas show just how little they understand technology. This is like demanding a backdoor in physics so they can teleport to the houses of potential terrorists. |
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Post by thebfg on Mar 27, 2017 18:23:41 GMT
I can't believe that what amounts to a simple messaging service has better encryption than most governments can only dream off.
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Post by loafer on Mar 27, 2017 18:25:19 GMT
I wouldn't have a problem with it. I've nothing to hide. If I wanted to commit a crime, I wouldn't use my own phone anyway!
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Post by tomsk on Mar 27, 2017 18:25:25 GMT
I can.
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Post by Delta9 on Mar 27, 2017 18:25:44 GMT
however in this case I can see very clearly the value of it for anti terrorist action And what value would that be? Even if they could do it, it would be of no use in the prevention of terrorism. |
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Post by Delta9 on Mar 27, 2017 18:26:43 GMT
I can't believe that what amounts to a simple messaging service has better encryption than most governments can only dream off. Governments use the same encryption, what are you on about? |
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Post by thebfg on Mar 27, 2017 18:29:16 GMT
I wouldn't have a problem with it. I've nothing to hide. If I wanted to commit a crime, I wouldn't use my own phone anyway! I was going to say just use what's app or an iPhone as not even the Americans could unlock one however I've seen that they got an unnamed third party to do it. |
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Post by Delta9 on Mar 27, 2017 18:29:17 GMT
I wouldn't have a problem with it. I've nothing to hide. If I wanted to commit a crime, I wouldn't use my own phone anyway! To use an extreme example: The jews had nothing to hide when they registered their religion with the Dutch government pre-WWII. Things changed. |
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Post by thebfg on Mar 27, 2017 18:30:40 GMT
I can't believe that what amounts to a simple messaging service has better encryption than most governments can only dream off. Governments use the same encryption, what are you on about? They don't use it enough then. How many leaks are there from top secret stuff all over the world. More than enough I would say. |
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Post by kris on Mar 27, 2017 18:32:56 GMT
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