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Post by Delta9 on May 12, 2017 18:59:20 GMT
What a giant balls up.. and so easily preventable.
How will the government twist this to make it seem like it isn't their own fault?
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 19:05:52 GMT
What a giant balls up.. and so easily preventable. How will the government twist this to make it seem like it isn't their own fault? Why is it such a balls up. No IT system is truly immune from such an attack, it's actually part of a cyber attack that is affecting not just the NHS but multiple organisations.
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Post by Delta9 on May 12, 2017 19:14:56 GMT
What a giant balls up.. and so easily preventable. How will the government twist this to make it seem like it isn't their own fault? Why is it such a balls up. No IT system is truly immune from such an attack, it's actually part of a cyber attack that is affecting not just the NHS but multiple organisations. Because this attack could have been prevented by having up to date computer systems. The problem is, they have been knowingly using very vulnerable and outdated systems because there is no funding to update things.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 19:20:52 GMT
Why is it such a balls up. No IT system is truly immune from such an attack, it's actually part of a cyber attack that is affecting not just the NHS but multiple organisations. Because this attack could have been prevented by having up to date computer systems. The problem is, they have been knowingly using very vulnerable and outdated systems because there is no funding to update things. Much like the banks then? you can spend as much money as you like on IT and there will always be someone who can circumvent what you've put in place. This country gets the NHS it is prepared to pay for.
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Post by Delta9 on May 12, 2017 19:24:04 GMT
Because this attack could have been prevented by having up to date computer systems. The problem is, they have been knowingly using very vulnerable and outdated systems because there is no funding to update things. Much like the banks then? you can spend as much money as you like on IT and there will always be someone who can circumvent what you've put in place. Yes, but this wasn't some high end hacker specifically targeting the NHS. It was shitty, easily preventable malware.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 19:30:35 GMT
Much like the banks then? you can spend as much money as you like on IT and there will always be someone who can circumvent what you've put in place. Yes, but this wasn't some high end hacker specifically targeting the NHS. It was shitty, easily preventable malware. This is the bit I don't get. Our systems were always regularly updated virus and malware detection wise and our IT bods were obsessive about ITsecurity so much so it used to drive me bloody mad sometimes.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 19:33:01 GMT
How will the government twist this to make it seem like it isn't their own fault? Well they can't blame the EU or the Local Council, and blaming it on those peskie russkies or ISIS would be strecthing things. I guess some IT company is selecting certain people for the firing squad... It couldn't possibly be the fault of who specced the system could it ...
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Post by Delta9 on May 12, 2017 19:35:26 GMT
Yes, but this wasn't some high end hacker specifically targeting the NHS. It was shitty, easily preventable malware. This is the bit I don't get. Our systems were always regularly updated virus and malware detection wise and our IT bods were obsessive about ITsecurity so much so it used to drive me bloody mad sometimes. Apparently a lot of NHS computers are still running on Windows XP, which is no longer supported and rather vulnerable.
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Post by Delta9 on May 12, 2017 19:37:09 GMT
Well it seems that the ransoms are getting paid. Bitcoin addresses published on news sites have received payment. I wonder who is paying them.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 19:40:46 GMT
This is the bit I don't get. Our systems were always regularly updated virus and malware detection wise and our IT bods were obsessive about ITsecurity so much so it used to drive me bloody mad sometimes. Apparently a lot of NHS computers are still running on Windows XP, which is no longer supported and rather vulnerable. My understanding is that whilst it isn't supported by Microsoft for the likes of you and I, organisations like the NHS could enter into agreements (at considerable cost!) for continued support. That was the position not long after I left in 2011 but I couldn't say for sure regards today.
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Post by Delta9 on May 12, 2017 19:43:18 GMT
Apparently a lot of NHS computers are still running on Windows XP, which is no longer supported and rather vulnerable. My understanding is that whilst it isn't supported by Microsoft for the likes of you and I, organisations like the NHS could enter into agreements (at considerable cost!) for continued support. That was the position not long after I left in 2011 but I couldn't say for sure regards today. I believe Microsoft stopped all support for XP about 3 years ago.
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Post by Gone on May 12, 2017 19:53:04 GMT
My understanding is that whilst it isn't supported by Microsoft for the likes of you and I, organisations like the NHS could enter into agreements (at considerable cost!) for continued support. That was the position not long after I left in 2011 but I couldn't say for sure regards today. I believe Microsoft stopped all support for XP about 3 years ago. Yep, I seem to remember that the UK gov't paid for XP support until mid 2015 when they stopped paying. My old lap top still runs XP and so far - touch wood - is still working ok..............
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Post by JohnV on May 12, 2017 19:54:15 GMT
How will the government twist this to make it seem like it isn't their own fault? Well they can't blame the EU or the Local Council, and blaming it on those peskie russkies or ISIS would be strecthing things. I guess some IT company is selecting certain people for the firing squad... It couldn't possibly be the fault of who specced the system could it ...New Labour .... if I remember correctly, came up with the Lorenzo computer system disaster
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 20:03:00 GMT
My understanding is that whilst it isn't supported by Microsoft for the likes of you and I, organisations like the NHS could enter into agreements (at considerable cost!) for continued support. That was the position not long after I left in 2011 but I couldn't say for sure regards today. I believe Microsoft stopped all support for XP about 3 years ago. This link would indeed suggest that the uk govt. stopped paying for the extended support in 2015 given they believed organisations had long since had time to upgrade. www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2406304/windows-xp-government-support-deal-ends-leaving-pcs-open-to-attackSo so it looks indeed like some unprotected PCs are still there which explains why some trusts have been hit and others haven't. oops.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 20:04:46 GMT
They also took us into a war... I'm blaming Patty!
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