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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 6:49:48 GMT
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Post by patty on Jun 4, 2017 6:57:17 GMT
I don't think Extremists that interested in Peace in our Time...these violent terrorists appear only interested in targeting innocent people..from now until General Election could be even more dodgy as its a means of disrupting life/creating fear...sometimes I don't think they want to make any political point they just want to kill and maim. We don't want terrorist tactics on our home grown soil yet in places abroad its part of everyday life...we are experiencing small taste of the awfulness that innocent people elsewhere co-exist with as the 'norm'... We've all got to become vigilant without letting fear rule.
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Post by lollygagger on Jun 4, 2017 7:33:10 GMT
What do you expect when you import Islamic terrorists? Will the 'majority of peaceful Islamists' will once again say this had nothing to do with their religion? Will there be more sales of 'Keep Calm and Carry On' mugs? But we don't do we? They always seem to be home grown. Your one sided views are the kind that allow the big wigs to cause wars.
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Post by phil70 on Jun 4, 2017 7:34:56 GMT
Vauxhall incident not terror related. Not what the police are saying this morning Phil
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 7:37:09 GMT
I don't think Extremists that interested in Peace in our Time...these violent terrorists appear only interested in targeting innocent people..from now until General Election could be even more dodgy as its a means of disrupting life/creating fear...sometimes I don't think they want to make any political point they just want to kill and maim. We don't want terrorist tactics on our home grown soil yet in places abroad its part of everyday life...we are experiencing small taste of the awfulness that innocent people elsewhere co-exist with as the 'norm'... We've all got to become vigilant without letting fear rule. I'm sure the people perpetuating these acts of violence believe they are doing it for a bigger cause. There is always a motive. The real war is between good and bad. That is love and peace against greed, hate and selfishness. That war goes on inside every individual, every day too. It's all about control really.. The powers that be have always tried to find more and more devious ways to control the masses. Maybe they also believe it's for a bigger cause. This is where we are at sadly.
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Post by lollygagger on Jun 4, 2017 8:00:30 GMT
Someone will have decided this was a bad but acceptable fallout before invading somewhere in order to "protect British interests". That's the saddest thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 8:00:37 GMT
What do you expect when you import Islamic terrorists? Will the 'majority of peaceful Islamists' will once again say this had nothing to do with their religion? Will there be more sales of 'Keep Calm and Carry On' mugs? What on earth are you talking about? i believe every attack carried out by Islamist extremists in this country has been carried out by people known as 'home grown' terrorists. We don't of course know yet if this is the same with the London Bridge attack. Do you know something different?
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Post by peterboat on Jun 4, 2017 10:20:02 GMT
we were in Manchester yesterday, Palace theater Oxford street. We were surprised at the lack of Police given what has happened, the nice thing was the ones we saw were not armed. I can also say that their was a lack of Asians as well which is a shame as its there city as well.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 5, 2017 18:28:46 GMT
What do you expect when you import Islamic terrorists? Will the 'majority of peaceful Islamists' will once again say this had nothing to do with their religion? Will there be more sales of 'Keep Calm and Carry On' mugs? What on earth are you talking about? i believe every attack carried out by Islamist extremists in this country has been carried out by people known as 'home grown' terrorists. We don't of course know yet if this is the same with the London Bridge attack. Do you know something different? I found a copy of The Times on the train to Nuneaton and Stafford, and it do say: "The Pakistani-born radical", so, yes, an import. Page 2. "Shouting "This is for Allah!"" They weren't shouting 'This is for Afghanistan/Iraq/Syria'.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 19:41:34 GMT
What on earth are you talking about? i believe every attack carried out by Islamist extremists in this country has been carried out by people known as 'home grown' terrorists. We don't of course know yet if this is the same with the London Bridge attack. Do you know something different? I found a copy of The Times on the train to Nuneaton and Stafford, and it do say: "The Pakistani-born radical", so, yes, an import. Page 2. When did he come here??
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 5, 2017 20:03:42 GMT
I found a copy of The Times on the train to Nuneaton and Stafford, and it do say: "The Pakistani-born radical", so, yes, an import. Page 2. When did he come here?? Hardly matters whether he was born in Pakistan, or is the son on parents who were born in Pakistan, does it? If he had been born in a stable, it wouldn't make him a horse. I was gratified to read that when he was shot, his head "exploded like a balloon".
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Post by lollygagger on Jun 5, 2017 20:07:50 GMT
While it may not be "the cause", does anyone believe the UK's previous behaviour abroad is utterly blameless in all this? That it's a case of "here's the uk minding it's blameless business, lets go killing them anyway because Allah is great". Like a random target of some sort? It may have become that, but I don't think this idea just spring from the ground at random purely coincidentally at a time the middle East is in a turmoil egged on by the West and Russia myself.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 20:59:14 GMT
Hardly matters whether he was born in Pakistan, or is the son on parents who were born in Pakistan, does it? If he had been born in a stable, it wouldn't make him a horse. I was gratified to read that when he was shot, his head "exploded like a balloon". Not as far as the end result no, it matters not a jot. That wasn't what I was enquiring about though.
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Post by IainS on Jun 5, 2017 21:32:01 GMT
More cock up, I think. A byproduct of "my enemy's enemy is my friend", and a fair bit of neglecting the end game and always taking a short term view.
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Post by JohnV on Jun 6, 2017 7:31:11 GMT
More cock up, I think. A byproduct of "my enemy's enemy is my friend", and a fair bit of neglecting the end game and always taking a short term view. occasionally of course this is pragmatism, especially when survival is at stake (I am thinking of Britain/USSR and Finland/The Third Reich during WWII)
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