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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2017 9:39:48 GMT
If you want to hand start a diesel, it's easier if the decompressors can be operated independently. Get it turning as fast as you can and then let one decompressor off, the engine may start or struggle (in which case keep cranking!) and then you let the other go. I've hand started lots of Listers in lifeboats, but I can't remember the model. They were two and three-cylinder units built in the 60's. As alluded to earlier, keep your thumb next to your fingers in case it kicks back.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2017 12:02:23 GMT
I used to have a Russell Newbery DM2 which I was able to hand start on a mild day. That was years ago I don't know if I'd be fit enough now.
As for bump starting a boat, if it had a hydraulic gearbox I don't think it'd be possible to put it in gear without engine running anyway.
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Post by Jim on Jul 2, 2017 13:24:10 GMT
The main problem is getting your mates to swim behind and push, Shirley? Aren't you glad I'm a member? Good job someone has a brane.
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Post by tonyb on Jul 2, 2017 14:04:07 GMT
I used to have a Russell Newbery DM2 which I was able to hand start on a mild day. That was years ago I don't know if I'd be fit enough now. As for bump starting a boat, if it had a hydraulic gearbox I don't think it'd be possible to put it in gear without engine running anyway. In general correct but the Lister LH150 puts itself into ahead as the engine stops and the oil pressure falls - still no chance of bump starting it though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2017 19:00:41 GMT
The main problem is getting your mates to swim behind and push, Shirley? Aren't you glad I'm a member? Good job someone has a brane. As previous. See this :-
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Post by twbm2 on Jul 2, 2017 21:17:47 GMT
Edited .. point I made already covered.
Shoulda read it all.
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Post by bargemast on Jul 3, 2017 7:04:25 GMT
I think the answer is probably no, but out of idle curiosity would it be possible to start a boat engine by towing the boat to maximum canal speed and then putting it into gear? Don't forget that these engines were only petrol engines with a lot less compression, on the same engine in diesel version, you would have a hard time getting the engine to turn around with the starting handle, even more as they haven't got decompression levers, to help you gaining speed in the turning of your engine. Peter.
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Post by bargemast on Jul 3, 2017 7:15:07 GMT
If you want to hand start a diesel, it's easier if the decompressors can be operated independently. Get it turning as fast as you can and then let one decompressor off, the engine may start or struggle (in which case keep cranking!) and then you let the other go. I've hand started lots of Listers in lifeboats, but I can't remember the model. They were two and three-cylinder units built in the 60's. As alluded to earlier, keep your thumb next to your fingers in case it kicks back. The ones with the decompressors were made with the possibility to hand start them, often, this was the only possibility, so never any starting problems because of flat batteries. The Lister engines in the lifeboats were quite likely HA-2 and HA-3 engines, very strong and reliable engines, followed by the a bit later made HR series. Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 7:26:06 GMT
Yes, I'm pretty sure they were HA's as you say. Some lifeboat engines were fitted with spring starters or inertia starters. But it was quicker to hand crank them unless it was winter. Has anyone seen a spring starter or inertia starter on a canal boat?
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