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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 17:39:50 GMT
I like to go through locks, speially flights, efficiently and quickly. As designed. No hurry or schedule but I find when people just fanny about for ages as if their boat is made of bone china is just annoying. Does anyone else get this or am I an intolerant twat? Absolutely. They fanny around with their paddle sequences as if its a musical instrument. Just fuckin get on with it and get outa my feckin way.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Jul 21, 2017 17:59:14 GMT
It's my belief that the farting about and excessively slow working of locks that has become standard practice these days is in truth one of the primary causes of boats getting either hung-up or caught under something in locks. Quick and full drawing up of paddles, and slamming gates to, keeps boats jiggling about and on the move in lock chambers and doesn't leave them with anything like so much of a chance of hanging up or getting caught on anything.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jul 21, 2017 19:12:05 GMT
Mr Stabby Have you considered filing down the end of the handle of the windlass to a spike so you have a legal weapon to deal with scrotes? I believe at least one murder (in Birmingham iirc) has been committed using one. Everybody goes to Google and types in 'windlass murder'.
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 21, 2017 20:19:23 GMT
Well fuck me this thread is gobsmacking. Magnetman, Dogless, Mrs Tabby, Jenlyn, Tony and me are all in full and total agreement. It's un-natural!
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Post by lollygagger on Jul 21, 2017 20:30:57 GMT
Because you've all done thousands of locks it's second nature. You wouldn't expect a novice car driver to be able to razz about, coffee in one hand and phone in the other so why get humpty with less experienced lock users.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 20:41:41 GMT
Comparing cars and boats never stands scrutiny.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 20:47:25 GMT
Because you've all done thousands of locks it's second nature. You wouldn't expect a novice car driver to be able to razz about, coffee in one hand and phone in the other so why get humpty with less experienced lock users. I don't have an issue with newbies, it's the silly old farts from cwdf. Well, two of them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 21:06:20 GMT
Well fuck me this thread is gobsmacking. Magnetman, Dogless, Mrs Tabby, Jenlyn, Tony and me are all in full and total agreement. It's un-natural! Not wishing to cause offence, and thank you for the kind offer, but I'll pass. Rog
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Post by kris on Jul 21, 2017 21:06:41 GMT
Because you've all done thousands of locks it's second nature. You wouldn't expect a novice car driver to be able to razz about, coffee in one hand and phone in the other so why get humpty with less experienced lock users. I don't have an issue with newbies, it's the silly old farts from cwdf. Well, two of them. now let me guess who?
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Post by kris on Jul 21, 2017 21:07:40 GMT
Well fuck me this thread is gobsmacking. Magnetman, Dogless, Mrs Tabby, Jenlyn, Tony and me are all in full and total agreement. It's un-natural! Not wishing to cause offence, and thank you for the kind offer, but I'll pass. Rog wise descision I reckon, you don't know where hes been.
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Post by bettina on Jul 21, 2017 21:22:33 GMT
Sorry to be the one to buck the trend guys, but to tell the honest truth, we poddul along. We do look back fairly often to make sure we aren't holding anyone up behind us and if there is as soon as safely possible we pull over and wave them on.
At locks, I take the boat in and out and Dave works the paddles & gates, I have never considered if I go in slowly or not, since I'm not able to get off the boat without my ramp, I tend to get the arse end in close enough for Dave to step off and then I just hover near the lock gates until he has them open for me. I exit the lock and again just hover with the stern just outside the gates till he has finished closing the gates and paddles and gets back on the boat.
Obviously this all changes if there is a boat coming into the lock, I exit and get out of their way and pick him up at the lock landing.
If it's a nice day, he tends to only open one gate paddle/ground paddle; again though if there is someone else waiting for the lock or following us he opens both sides.
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 21, 2017 21:34:56 GMT
Sorry to be the one to buck the trend guys, but to tell the honest truth, we poddul along. We do look back fairly often to make sure we aren't holding anyone up behind us and if there is as soon as safely possible we pull over and wave them on. At locks, I take the boat in and out and Dave works the paddles & gates, I have never considered if I go in slowly or not, since I'm not able to get off the boat without my ramp, I tend to get the arse end in close enough for Dave to step off and then I just hover near the lock gates until he has them open for me. I exit the lock and again just hover with the stern just outside the gates till he has finished closing the gates and paddles and gets back on the boat. Obviously this all changes if there is a boat coming into the lock, I exit and get out of their way and pick him up at the lock landing. If it's a nice day, he tends to only open one gate paddle/ground paddle; again though if there is someone else waiting for the lock or following us he opens both sides. There's nothing wrong with poddling along if you are not holding anyone else up. However from your brief description, it doesn't sound as if you are particularly slow. Some people manage to make a huge meal out of a simple task. Apart from the actual lock, they might typically spend some time manoeuvring the boat into the side after exiting so that the crew can get on, and their several slightly naughty dogs, then spend more time manoeuvring the boat into the side at the next lock, tying the boat up, generally faffing around, putting collars and leads back on the dogs - when the next lock is only 100 yards away! Yes really, I've seen it many times! The thing is, often such people have to put much more effort into doing things stupidly slowly than we would put into achieving the same thing in half the time. Personally I don't consider that going slowly is a virtue in itself, worthy of expending extra effort in achieving.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 21:36:18 GMT
But Betty, when we were behind you at Marsworth bottom two (and at that point you hadn't met us, or seen my boat to recognise us) you offered to let us pass, and certainly didn't hold us up.
I am not in a rush, and am happy to wait my turn.
I cannot help occasionally finding self imposed silly rules a tad irritating, that's all.
Some people cruise in tick over, and that's fine, but it would be polite to let those wishing to travel faster pass by.
Rog
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Post by naughtyfox on Jul 21, 2017 21:40:27 GMT
We check to see who's coming or behind us, and if no-one, we do our locks the way we want 'em. We try to be respectful of their 200-plus years age, and marvel sometimes at the thoughtful architectural design. And curse the idiots who did not think to put bridges by both gates to save you walking all round the lock just so you can close the other gate/paddle. The architect for the Llangollen Canal must have been a perverse bell-end for having the by-washes right by the bottom gates (who was he, by the way?). I look at the masons' marks and think: "Yes, matey, I see your message." - they must have worked in bad conditions with a family to feed and Brindley moaning at them for not going faster. They are dead now, but their chisels marks speak from the grave.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 21:45:29 GMT
Jessop was the engineer as I recall.
I'm amazed the by washes haven't been re-directed at some time in the last couple of hundred years.
Rog
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