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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2017 15:41:00 GMT
Old tyres are a bugger to deal with. Maybe they could be securely fitted to sections of canal bank which have metal piling. That way the boat wouldn't bang about as much which would allow other boats to pass faster leading to less overall stress for everyone.
Tyres are used on some boats but they are not appropriate as hanging fenders on canal boats as if they break off they can foul lock gates.
But fixed to the bank I can see no problems. OK maybe the occasional GRP cruiser would get some black marks but they are a minority and there could be tyre socks in some places to account for it.
Its a no brainer.
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Post by thebfg on Oct 2, 2017 15:47:01 GMT
it would work. I'm not sure what the rules using tyres are, either the stringent rules on disposal.
as a hire boater we are always told to moor it as tight as possible. never had an issue with banging around.
this maybe ok for a day or so bit not sure if it's a good thing being moored for longer due to possible water level changes.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2017 15:56:12 GMT
The usual advice is to leave some slack in cse of level changes. I prefer to tie tight with a thin rope (8mm poly) at each end and secure the centre line as well. Result is boat doesn't bang but the thin ropes will break before the boat gets to a dangerous angle if the level changes.
Its probably technically illegal to place old tyres into a waterway. There will be a law somewhere.
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Post by thebfg on Oct 2, 2017 16:09:28 GMT
no law to prevent attaching them to the boat though.
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Post by thebfg on Oct 2, 2017 16:10:58 GMT
I thought that may be the case. I suppose leaving for a day or overnight is ok.
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Post by Andyberg on Oct 2, 2017 16:39:56 GMT
OK maybe the occasional GRP cruiser would get some black marks but they are a minority They could use those 'whitewall' tyres as fitted to 50's pimpmobiles to keep the yoghurt pots happy! |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Oct 2, 2017 16:43:37 GMT
I have three old tyres attached to the piling on my mooring, I'm not aware if it being illegal.
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Post by Saltysplash on Oct 2, 2017 16:45:20 GMT
I've never left slack on canals, your never more than an inch or so off the bottom in most cases. Places that are deep with short pounds then yes, possibly, but that would only be if there was any chance of a significant drop.
Rivers and tidal sections then yes, always leave slack
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2017 17:19:08 GMT
All true but I think that it might be part of the official CaRT advice.
Possibly forms part of some sort of disclaimer. I noticed they (CRT) have put some signs up on the Hertford Union in Hackney to advice against mooring as there is some junk in the water (concrete lumps presumably thrown in by local residents). Rumour has it a boat rolled over when the pound went low and took on water through a basin or sink skin fitting. Not that slack ropes would have helped but its the principle.
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Post by peterboat on Oct 2, 2017 17:53:16 GMT
All true but I think that it might be part of the official CaRT advice. Possibly forms part of some sort of disclaimer. I noticed they (CRT) have put some signs up on the Hertford Union in Hackney to advice against mooring as there is some junk in the water (concrete lumps presumably thrown in by local residents). Rumour has it a boat rolled over when the pound went low and took on water through a basin or sink skin fitting. Not that slack ropes would have helped but its the principle. When we lost water in our section navigation the boat next to me sat on the bottom overnight when the section was flooded again the boat sank some think hard put a hole in it you never know whats in there |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2017 18:06:28 GMT
Thats true. I know a wooden broads cruise that sank on the Thames when it sat down on some rubble after mooring up when the river was higher than usual.
Its less likely on canals as usually they are lined with clay so its likely that a sound boat would push a smaller object down rather than the object coming up through the bottom of the boat.
Obviously some canals are concrete lined or have sloping sides so a low pound can be a real danger.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2017 18:17:09 GMT
The yanks got it a bit wrong in Florida. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_ReefTyres are not GRP friendly, the ruin gel coat and leave black marks on your immaculately painted white hull sides. Not for me. I'm oot!  |
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Post by faffer on Oct 2, 2017 18:55:31 GMT
The yanks got it a bit wrong in Florida. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_ReefTyres are not GRP friendly, the ruin gel coat and leave black marks on your immaculately painted white hull sides. Not for me. I'm oot! ill be fine as if this numb idea goes ahead i will paint the hull black now |
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Post by airedaleman on Oct 3, 2017 18:32:55 GMT
Here in France they used old truck and tractor tyres as bank protection on the Marne Saone canal some years ago. They were wired together but over time they have started to come apart and the commercials don't find it funny to get one round the blade. Have been held up a couple of times whilst a diver was brought in to get tyres used as fenders from behind lock gates, they are very no go.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 18:47:56 GMT
Yes I think it was discussed on cwdf a while ago and someone commented on the tyres behind lock gates problem. Obviously prop fouling is also a potential problem. They would want to be very well secured with stainless fasteners and a maintenance regime of some sort. On UK canals they would definitely get a lot less abuse than on a Freycinet canal in France |
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