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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 9:30:22 GMT
What has gone wrong with adults ability to raise children in a sensible way?
I am tired of waiting in queues behind people asking a four year old what they want to eat.
I am tired of seeing toddlers throw tantrums in the toy section where I work, having been dragged unwillingly on a shopping trip, and then on being taken into an 'Aladins cave' of goodies, not being allowed to have anything.
When I was a little one, we were fed without consultation or debate. The choice was largely eat it or leave it. Shopping was an adult function, and not a spectator sport.
How is a toddler supposed to select from a menu or display of food?
Surely the purpose of the parent is to introduce and educate the child in suitable nutrition and behaviour?
I'm popping off now for a £2 bacon sandwich and coffee at Greggs before work, and I just know that there'll be several someones inviting their kiddies to select a breakfast from the huge display of unsuitable foods, demanding that they "hurry up, that mister's waiting".
I'm just getting older and grumpier I guess.
Rog
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 9:38:56 GMT
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Nov 15, 2017 9:43:17 GMT
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Post by lollygagger on Nov 15, 2017 9:43:17 GMT
What has gone wrong with adults ability to raise children in a sensible way? I am tired of waiting in queues behind people asking a four year old what they want to eat. I am tired of seeing toddlers throw tantrums in the toy section where I work, having been dragged unwillingly on a shopping trip, and then on being taken into an 'Aladins cave' of goodies, not being allowed to have anything. When I was a little one, we were fed without consultation or debate. The choice was largely eat it or leave it. Shopping was an adult function, and not a spectator sport. How is a toddler supposed to select from a menu or display of food? Surely the purpose of the parent is to introduce and educate the child in suitable nutrition and behaviour? I'm popping off now for a £2 bacon sandwich and coffee at Greggs before work, and I just know that there'll be several someones inviting their kiddies to select a breakfast from the huge display of unsuitable foods, demanding that they "hurry up, that mister's waiting". I'm just getting older and grumpier I guess. Rog Work isn't really agreeable for you is it? Do you really need the money or is it more something to pass the winter months somewhere warm? |
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Nov 15, 2017 9:47:00 GMT
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Post by thebfg on Nov 15, 2017 9:47:00 GMT
Up until my kids were about four or five, they ate pretty much what they were given.
And importantly what most parents seem to forget is that there was no pudding unless they ate all their dinner.
To be fair though it's very rare we have pudding anyway.
This has given the kids. Eleven and six a great appetite and they will eat anything.
Swordfish, salmon. Prawns, olives steak, sushi, tikka masala, duck, chilli from the jar. Tobacco sauce. the boy will take chorizo in a French stick for his school lunch. He loves tomato juice.
In a shop they would rather pick up a fruit pot and a juice than chocolate and fizzy stuff.
One good thing is at home and out and about they will always have their water bottle with them. They prefer to drink water than anything else.
There is nothing they won't eat and that's as you say is because we gave them such a variation when they were young.
To be fair when we go somewhere they either know what they want. Somewhere like Greg's we would pick for them.
What makes me happy is he has OCD yet prefers rich, spicy food and will eat anything and I see spoilt brats eating the same dinner every night pizza or burger and chips.
He is partial to a dominoes though.
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Post by markhez on Nov 15, 2017 10:26:10 GMT
That seems quite irresponsible really!  |
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 15, 2017 10:41:10 GMT
What has gone wrong with adults ability to raise children in a sensible way? I am tired of waiting in queues behind people asking a four year old what they want to eat. I am tired of seeing toddlers throw tantrums in the toy section where I work, having been dragged unwillingly on a shopping trip, and then on being taken into an 'Aladins cave' of goodies, not being allowed to have anything. When I was a little one, we were fed without consultation or debate. The choice was largely eat it or leave it. Shopping was an adult function, and not a spectator sport. How is a toddler supposed to select from a menu or display of food? Surely the purpose of the parent is to introduce and educate the child in suitable nutrition and behaviour? I'm popping off now for a £2 bacon sandwich and coffee at Greggs before work, and I just know that there'll be several someones inviting their kiddies to select a breakfast from the huge display of unsuitable foods, demanding that they "hurry up, that mister's waiting". I'm just getting older and grumpier I guess. Rog Totally concur. It is all down to the parents’ desire to be their offspring’s best friend, due to their own insecurities. |
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Nov 15, 2017 10:54:08 GMT
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Post by thebfg on Nov 15, 2017 10:54:08 GMT
That seems quite irresponsible really! Tobasco. Whoops. |
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Post by patty on Nov 15, 2017 14:31:49 GMT
What has gone wrong with adults ability to raise children in a sensible way? I am tired of waiting in queues behind people asking a four year old what they want to eat. I am tired of seeing toddlers throw tantrums in the toy section where I work, having been dragged unwillingly on a shopping trip, and then on being taken into an 'Aladins cave' of goodies, not being allowed to have anything. When I was a little one, we were fed without consultation or debate. The choice was largely eat it or leave it. Shopping was an adult function, and not a spectator sport. How is a toddler supposed to select from a menu or display of food? Surely the purpose of the parent is to introduce and educate the child in suitable nutrition and behaviour? I'm popping off now for a £2 bacon sandwich and coffee at Greggs before work, and I just know that there'll be several someones inviting their kiddies to select a breakfast from the huge display of unsuitable foods, demanding that they "hurry up, that mister's waiting". I'm just getting older and grumpier I guess. Rog You are probably older and grumpier but then kids are brought up so differently nowadays....there is so much I could say to my kids but i don't...it has to be their choice but it will be interesting to view 'finished product' of an upbringing whereby discipline is replaced by reasoned discussions(that one is 2 years old!)..I tried once to support daughter in her request that grand daughter(aged 4) went upstairs to get ready and I refused to put TV on hold(for bloody adverts!)..Grand daughter kicked off..upstairs daughter told her I was stupid and down she comes to commence chanting "Nana is stupid etc etc..over and over again....I walked out, climbed my fence and stayed in the swamp....yeah ok tad childish but I was raging and to me knotweed and swamp preferable to that behaviour. As for food...jeepers....kids....I hate eating out anywhere where the little darlings are off rein... |
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Post by dyertribe on Nov 15, 2017 15:10:29 GMT
That seems quite irresponsible really! And Olive must be well p*ssed of at them eating her steak...... |
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 15, 2017 15:17:50 GMT
Just get some nice chocolates and start eating them. When granddaughter asks for some you just say "I thought you said I was stupid..." - they soon change their minds when they want something!  |
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Post by dyertribe on Nov 15, 2017 15:19:43 GMT
What has gone wrong with adults ability to raise children in a sensible way? I am tired of waiting in queues behind people asking a four year old what they want to eat. I am tired of seeing toddlers throw tantrums in the toy section where I work, having been dragged unwillingly on a shopping trip, and then on being taken into an 'Aladins cave' of goodies, not being allowed to have anything. When I was a little one, we were fed without consultation or debate. The choice was largely eat it or leave it. Shopping was an adult function, and not a spectator sport. How is a toddler supposed to select from a menu or display of food? Surely the purpose of the parent is to introduce and educate the child in suitable nutrition and behaviour? I'm popping off now for a £2 bacon sandwich and coffee at Greggs before work, and I just know that there'll be several someones inviting their kiddies to select a breakfast from the huge display of unsuitable foods, demanding that they "hurry up, that mister's waiting". I'm just getting older and grumpier I guess. Rog Totally concur. It is all down to the parents’ desire to be their offspring’s best friend, due to their own insecurities. My daughter who is now 18 will eat almost anything, (except cauliflower cheese and carrots) was also brought up to eat what we eat and not the children's menu. We once caught a programme where they were making children try all sorts of strange (to them) foods. The conclusion was that you have to taste a food an average of seven times before you like it, so anything she didn't like she was made to try at intervals, if she still didn't like it we just said "oh well, only another x times before you like it!" It seems to have worked (except cauliflower cheese and carrots). The answer to why can't I have it/do it/ go there was usually "because it's the rule", that worked too, until she was about 11 or so. |
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Nov 15, 2017 15:23:37 GMT
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Post by thebfg on Nov 15, 2017 15:23:37 GMT
Totally concur. It is all down to the parents’ desire to be their offspring’s best friend, due to their own insecurities. My daughter who is now 18 will eat almost anything, (except cauliflower cheese and carrots) was also brought up to eat what we eat and not the children's menu. We once caught a programme where they were making children try all sorts of strange (to them) foods. The conclusion was that you have to taste a food an average of seven times before you like it, so anything she didn't like she was made to try at intervals, if she still didn't like it we just said "oh well, only another x times before you like it!" It seems to have worked (except cauliflower cheese and carrots). The answer to why can't I have it/do it/ go there was usually "because it's the rule", that worked too, until she was about 11 or so. That sort of stuff makes a difference. Apart from when they were babies, they have all ways had what we had. None of this making two different meals. |
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 15, 2017 15:26:46 GMT
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Nov 15, 2017 15:27:09 GMT
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Post by thebfg on Nov 15, 2017 15:27:09 GMT
That seems quite irresponsible really! And Olive must be well p*ssed of at them eating her steak...... Blimey, if Popeye finds out. He's dead. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 17:42:34 GMT
What has gone wrong with adults ability to raise children in a sensible way? I am tired of waiting in queues behind people asking a four year old what they want to eat. I am tired of seeing toddlers throw tantrums in the toy section where I work, having been dragged unwillingly on a shopping trip, and then on being taken into an 'Aladins cave' of goodies, not being allowed to have anything. When I was a little one, we were fed without consultation or debate. The choice was largely eat it or leave it. Shopping was an adult function, and not a spectator sport. How is a toddler supposed to select from a menu or display of food? Surely the purpose of the parent is to introduce and educate the child in suitable nutrition and behaviour? I'm popping off now for a £2 bacon sandwich and coffee at Greggs before work, and I just know that there'll be several someones inviting their kiddies to select a breakfast from the huge display of unsuitable foods, demanding that they "hurry up, that mister's waiting". I'm just getting older and grumpier I guess. Rog Work isn't really agreeable for you is it? Do you really need the money or is it more something to pass the winter months somewhere warm? Work's great. Some of the people though......... The money pays for the blacking, licence, mooring fees, insurance etc rather than using my own, and we'd be home for christmas anyway to spend some time with family, like one does. Just letting off steam really. Rog |
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