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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 17:47:04 GMT
The establishment is looking the other way while a whole generation of vapers builds up. Then, oh my gosh, new scientific research will find it's bad for everyone's health and the gov will tax the arse out of the new nicotine addicted vapers. Thing is though, a lot of vapers have zero nicotine juice so no tax to pay to the greedy bastards
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Post by Mr Stabby on Dec 16, 2017 18:00:54 GMT
The establishment is looking the other way while a whole generation of vapers builds up. Then, oh my gosh, new scientific research will find it's bad for everyone's health and the gov will tax the arse out of the new nicotine addicted vapers. Thing is though, a lot of vapers have zero nicotine juice so no tax to pay to the greedy bastards I think nicotine is the only element the government would be able to tax so I'm sure you are right. I imagine they will look towards taxing it soon, simply because of the enormous tax revenue they must be losing as a result of the reduction in smoking.
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Post by Saltysplash on Dec 20, 2017 7:40:32 GMT
We've been vaping for about a year now. Its good but not as good as a drag on a fag. We only gave up smoking because it became just too damned expensive. I used to smoke rollies and would spend £10 every two days on baccy with papers and filters on top of that. The Memsahib smoked ready made and would go through 20 a day at nearly £9 a packet.
Now, once the initial cost of the vape machine is done, in our case £30 each, we buy our liquid at £1 for 10ml which lasts me 3 days and her 4 days. New coils cost about £5 for five and one will last about a month. I also make my own which works out at pennies.
As to the effects of passive vaping, Dunno, the big difference is its Vapour and not Smoke and I no longer have a cough. Opening the stove and putting coal on the fire always smells a lot worse and gets the sprogs coughing a bit.
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Post by naughtyfox on Dec 20, 2017 8:25:13 GMT
A cheap way of smoking is to climb on top of your boat and stick your face down the chimney.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 8:44:32 GMT
We've been vaping for about a year now. Its good but not as good as a drag on a fag. We only gave up smoking because it became just too damned expensive. I used to smoke rollies and would spend £10 every two days on baccy with papers and filters on top of that. The Memsahib smoked ready made and would go through 20 a day at nearly £9 a packet. Now, once the initial cost of the vape machine is done, in our case £30 each, we buy our liquid at £1 for 10ml which lasts me 3 days and her 4 days. New coils cost about £5 for five and one will last about a month. I also make my own which works out at pennies. As to the effects of passive vaping, Dunno, the big difference is its Vapour and not Smoke and I no longer have a cough. Opening the stove and putting coal on the fire always smells a lot worse and gets the sprogs coughing a bit. Get a decent powered vape and the drag is just like a fag, ramp up the watts! The higher the nicotine % also helps recreate the fag part, 18% gives a good throat hit, i slowly dropped down the % all the way to zero. Still miss a fag though when having a beer....
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Post by naughtyfox on Dec 20, 2017 12:01:52 GMT
It all sounds a bit like sex with blow-up dolls, just fooling yourselves. Even in the dark her PVC squeaks when you rub it the wrong way.
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Post by bargemast on Dec 20, 2017 12:46:42 GMT
It all sounds a bit like sex with blow-up dolls, just fooling yourselves. Even in the dark her PVC squeaks when you rub it the wrong way.Only you will know this, as you seem to have the experience My blow-up doll is completely silent, she's too holy The vaping, I've never done that didn't exist when I gave up smoking 50 years ago already. At the time I was in the Nato troups where they gave you lots of time off if you wanted to prepare for sport competitions between the different Nato countries soldiers. Because I liked time off, I did everything I could to get a maximum of time to prepare, and discovered a lack of breath, so that was a very good reason to stop smoking, and instead of smoking my weekly ration of the tax-free carton of fags, I sold them to the Germans, which made it a double win. I've never been tempted to smoke again, in the past you didn't know (or didn't want to know) how bad it is, but since they have to write on the packets that smoking kills, you must be suicidal to continu. What I hate more than anything else is when I see a woman breast feeding her baby while smoking, they love their children (I hope) but don't mind filling their little lungs with smoke. Passive smoking is worse than smoking, it's like being forced to listen to much too loud crappy music that a lot of deaf people have on full blast, specially when driving their cars, so that everybody has to listen to it. Nothing wrong with wanting to listen to loud music yourself, but then use headphones, so it will be just for you. Anyway, I can't cha nge to world, and people do things their own ways, if the solution to giving up smoking has to go through a vaping cycle, well so be it.Peter.
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Post by naughtyfox on Dec 20, 2017 17:23:43 GMT
My (our) French teacher at school, many years ago said there are two things she can't stand: women smoking over babies in their prams, and women putting on make-up in public. I think I agree. I mean, in a lift full of other people, is it OK to drop my trousers and underpants and wipe my bum with some toilet paper?* Isn't that on a par with pouting your lips and putting lipstick on them. What about people flossing their teeth on buses? Once we saw a girl put her foot up on the headrest of a seat on the Banbury to Marylebone train and start clipping her toenails!
(* I only do this in Harrods)
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Post by naughtyfox on Dec 20, 2017 17:27:16 GMT
"I've never been tempted to smoke again, in the past you didn't know (or didn't want to know) how bad it is, but since they have to write on the packets that smoking kills, you must be suicidal to continue"
I keep thinking how nice it would be to smoke a pipe at the back of our boat, of an Autumn's evening, with smoke coming out the chimney and wine and good food in the oven, ready in an hour or so. Perhaps I should save these thoughts for next time we are on the Llangollen Canal as I can then jump off the Ponty-wotsit aqueduct if I start and want to continue...??!!
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Post by bargemast on Dec 20, 2017 17:32:45 GMT
"I've never been tempted to smoke again, in the past you didn't know (or didn't want to know) how bad it is, but since they have to write on the packets that smoking kills, you must be suicidal to continue" I keep thinking how nice it would be to smoke a pipe at the back of our boat, of an Autumn's evening, with smoke coming out the chimney and wine and good food in the oven, ready in an hour or so. Perhaps I should save these thoughts for next time we are on the Llangollen Canal as I can then jump off the Ponty-wotsit aqueduct if I start and want to continue...??!! Do what ever you fancy if it makes you happy, as long as your not bothering other people with doing what you fancy doing. Peter.
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