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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 18:20:30 GMT
Can't you two even have a decent argument? Martin your losing your edge you know. Old age.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 18:21:04 GMT
In fairness to surveyors, they do not make a secret of the fact that their report is just a 'snap shot' much like an MOT tester. Don't worry about the lack of fighting spirit with mm and mjg. No doubt Telemachus will be here soon Rog
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Post by kris on Feb 11, 2018 18:48:51 GMT
Don't worry about the lack of fighting spirit with mm and mjg. No doubt Telemachus will be here soon Rog he's gone off in a huff as he always does when his ego gets bruised.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 11, 2018 18:54:08 GMT
Don't worry about the lack of fighting spirit with mm and mjg. No doubt Telemachus will be here soon Rog he's gone off in a huff as he always does when his ego gets bruised. TellyMackus has flounced? Shit. Who are we going to get now to teach us the correct pronunciation of the names of Greek gods?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 19:09:17 GMT
I don't feel that classical language education is really needed on this forum.
I did Latin at school but it had 0% positive effect on my life. "In pictura est puella. Nomine Flavia. Sub arbore sedet". "In the picture is a girl called Flavia. She is sitting under a tree".
And ?
Telemachus is a boat owner and boater and he is quite knowledgeable (i've forgotten more than he will ever know) so his input here is valid despite apparently owning a horrible caricature "replica" narrow boat. However I have for a long time been a bit suspicious that he is not really in it for the common good.
Got to be honest. Its a good forum really. People sometimes get excited and use rude language because they can and it doesn't cause negative outcomes for them personally.
(Edit to correct the Latin)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 19:14:08 GMT
he's gone off in a huff as he always does when his ego gets bruised. TellyMackus I thought it was TellyMuckUs Back on topic (sort of), about 5 years ago I had a survey on a narrowboat, one of my better decisions. The surveyor found that the hull had very deep pitting and would possibly need over plating (apparently the galvanic isolator whilst there and connected to the batteries hadn't been wired up to the hull - non-technical explanation). Boat less than 10 years old, owners very upset - me mildly disappointed. As a first time buyer I will be getting a survey!
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 11, 2018 19:21:13 GMT
Telemachus is a boat owner and boater and he is quite knowledgeable (i've forgotten more than he will ever know) so his input here is valid despite apparently owning a horrible caricature "replica" narrow boat. <iframe width="26.09999999999991" height="7.399999999999977" style="position: absolute; width: 26.1px; height: 7.4px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 0px; top: 0px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_85565776"></iframe> <iframe width="26.09999999999991" height="7.399999999999977" style="position: absolute; width: 26.1px; height: 7.4px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1238px; top: -170px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_34461364"></iframe> <iframe width="26.09999999999991" height="7.399999999999977" style="position: absolute; width: 26.1px; height: 7.4px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 10px; top: -18px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_15136172"></iframe> <iframe width="26.09999999999991" height="7.399999999999977" style="position: absolute; width: 26.1px; height: 7.4px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1238px; top: -18px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_13778227"></iframe> I'd have to admit that those fake rivets are pretty naff.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 19:29:43 GMT
I just don't understand the fake rivet thing at all. There's no sense in it. Welding has been the recognised way of connecting bits of steel together for about 70 or 80 years now. I could understand someone getting repairs done to an old boat using riveting but to attempt to fool people into thinking a new boat is old just doesn't make sense. And the Hudson bows are all wrong anyway. Roger Fuller and one or two others can do a real replica to be fair but I still prefer not to see imitation rivets even on a properly constructed boat.
Naff is a good word for it. Its a bit like mock Tudor houses with big oak doors.
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Post by Stumpy on Feb 11, 2018 19:41:25 GMT
I just don't understand the fake rivet thing at all. Perhaps it reminds Mr Norman of his very first "Golden Rivet" experience
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 20:00:37 GMT
I just don't understand the fake rivet thing at all. There's no sense in it. Welding has been the recognised way of connecting bits of steel together for about 70 or 80 years now. I could understand someone getting repairs done to an old boat using riveting but to attempt to fool people into thinking a new boat is old just doesn't make sense. And the Hudson bows are all wrong anyway. Roger Fuller and one or two others can do a real replica to be fair but I still prefer not to see imitation rivets even on a properly constructed boat. Naff is a good word for it. Its a bit like mock Tudor houses with big oak doors. The ruskies played with bare metal electrodes in 1888, it wasn't untill the 1900's when a swede got the idea of covering the electrode to form a shielding gas as the electrode was consumed did MMA (ARC) welding as we would become to know it was developed. Industry was reluctant to adopt MMA welding until in to the 30's - the demand for shipping and war materials in the late 30's rapid accelerated the move from riveting to welding of plates and structures. It didn't always go well though. metallurgyandmaterials.wordpress.com/2015/12/25/liberty-ship-failures/amp/For a long time MMA was king, more tonnage of welding consumables and meters of weld were made using coated electrodes than any other process put together. This has changed though, MAG/MIG welding has overtaken MMA as the machine of choice - vastly superior for production output along with cost per meter of weld being significantly cheaper. Sales of covered electrodes have fallen quiet markedly over the last twenty five or so years, kit is a lot cheaper, more powerful and portable than ever before too. All that said, an old Oxford oil cooled welder is a better machine sitting out in the elements dockside than a fancy MAG/MIG set with its wire going rusty and it's electronics getting damp Never believe any of the dorks that tell you only MMA is acceptable below the waterline. The only criteria you should look for is a welder capable of welding, his/her choice of process is naff all to do with a clueless twonk who once listened to a bunch of Muppets on the premiere inland waterways forum talk shit
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Post by kris on Feb 11, 2018 20:21:24 GMT
he's gone off in a huff as he always does when his ego gets bruised. TellyMackus has flounced? Shit. Who are we going to get now to teach us the correct pronunciation of the names of Greek gods? I don't know if you'd call it an official flounce, but when he makes a real prick of himself he goes quite for a while the. Reappears. I think he hopes people will forget.
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Post by bargemast on Feb 11, 2018 20:27:24 GMT
In the last 45 years I've been around quite a lot of shipyards were new barges were built and also repair yards.
In the beginning of this period thay were doing all the work with MMA welding, but since about 20 years it has progressed a lot to mig/mag welding, and plasma-cutters have replaced the oxy/acytelene.
On the yards were the new barges-and ships are build, and were they have space inside to build sections, the welding is mainly done with mig/mag, but once the sections have to be assembled outside it's mainly done with MMA again.
Saying that, it may have changed in the last couple of years, as I haven't been to any big yards in that time anymore.
Peter.
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Post by Telemachus on Feb 11, 2018 20:36:06 GMT
Don't worry about the lack of fighting spirit with mm and mjg. No doubt Telemachus will be here soon Rog he's gone off in a huff as he always does when his ego gets bruised. Bull
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Post by Telemachus on Feb 11, 2018 20:36:32 GMT
he's gone off in a huff as he always does when his ego gets bruised. TellyMackus has flounced? Shit. Who are we going to get now to teach us the correct pronunciation of the names of Greek gods? Shit
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Post by Telemachus on Feb 11, 2018 20:43:19 GMT
TellyMackus has flounced? Shit. Who are we going to get now to teach us the correct pronunciation of the names of Greek gods? I don't know if you'd call it an official flounce, but when he makes a real prick of himself he goes quite for a while the. Reappears. I think he hopes people will forget. Sorry if you missed me Just another busy day at the gliding club, nice wave day, flew 125km at around 8,000’, bloody cold mind! Then helped by doing some aerotowing, then did some maintenance in the hangar (helping someone install a transponder). It’s all go when you’re retired, and winding you lot up is only something to waste time on when there’s nothing better to do. View out of my”office” this afternoon:
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