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Post by kris on May 4, 2018 8:11:24 GMT
Why when they resurface towpaths do they not leave space for mooring pins? Obviously sometimes there isn't room. Where I am at the moment there are miles of "improved" towpath and no where for boats to moor. All the mooring spots locally are 48h and crowded. Surely Crt should put rings in when they do something like this. Maybe for every mooring made 48hrs there should be a replacement provided in the local area?
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2018 8:16:21 GMT
Absolutely.
Rings do less damage to the bank than pins.
And as towpath work is usually done by other agencies, a condition to add rings wouldn't cost would it?
Rog
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Post by Andyberg on May 4, 2018 8:23:55 GMT
They are currently redoing the path from the Rufford Branch to Burscough Wharf at great expense. Now Im no surveyor / civil engineer or whatever but surely this new path, whilst being a fantastic improvement over the mud, wont be able to last the test of time? Its basically a trench just dug out n filled with crush & run...Id of thought it would of needed 'framing' with wood / concrete?
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Post by kris on May 4, 2018 8:24:11 GMT
Absolutely. Rings do less damage to the bank than pins. And as towpath work is usually done by other agencies, a condition to add rings wouldn't cost would it? Rog it just seems to make sense, it's almost as if cart don't want boats to be able to moor up.
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Post by kris on May 4, 2018 8:33:01 GMT
They are currently redoing the path from the Rufford Branch to Burscough Wharf at great expense. Now Im no surveyor / civil engineer or whatever but surely this new path, whilst being a fantastic improvement over the mud, wont be able to last the test of time? Its basically a trench just dug out n filled with crush & run...Id of thought it would of needed 'framing' with wood / concrete? it is supposed to be edged, they have a metal strip that they use for edging. But obviously it's too exspensive for cart. The actual material is good stuff, better than Tarmac. But obviously without edging it will crumble. At least they have left space for mooring pins.There have been lots of towpath "improvements" so there are now vast tracts of canal that boats can't moor on.
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Post by Telemachus on May 4, 2018 8:37:37 GMT
Obviously I agree that provision for mooring would be good, but can one not knock stakes through that thin layer of crushed stone without too much difficulty?
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Post by Andyberg on May 4, 2018 8:45:16 GMT
Obviously I agree that provision for mooring would be good, but can one not knock stakes through that thin layer of crushed stone without too much difficulty? In the picture Iposted yes, hammering spikes in is no problem, there are also mooring rings along virtually the whole stretch as it used to be perminent BW moorings before the marinas opened. I was refering to the quality of the Path construction with my post / pic 🙂
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Post by deadly on May 4, 2018 10:28:22 GMT
When we broke down a couple of years ago we had to drag the boat about a mile or so before there was anywhere to hammer in a pin due to the tarmac extending right to the edge stones, wasn't even anything around to tie off temporary to have a look what had gone wrong! Remnants of a few rawl bolts in the edging stones told me how to deal with the problem if it ever crops up again, if I'd had an M8 eye bolt I could maybe have got it in to some of those remanants, or if I'd had a rawl bolt and hammer drill I could have made my own mooring ring.
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Post by kris on May 4, 2018 10:38:55 GMT
When we broke down a couple of years ago we had to drag the boat about a mile or so before there was anywhere to hammer in a pin due to the tarmac extending right to the edge stones, wasn't even anything around to tie off temporary to have a look what had gone wrong! Remnants of a few rawl bolts in the edging stones told me how to deal with the problem if it ever crops up again, if I'd had an M8 eye bolt I could maybe have got it in to some of those remanants, or if I'd had a rawl bolt and hammer drill I could have made my own mooring ring. I think carrying the kit to put in my own mooring rings is the way forward.
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Post by tadworth on May 4, 2018 13:51:04 GMT
Absolutely. Rings do less damage to the bank than pins. And as towpath work is usually done by other agencies, a condition to add rings wouldn't cost would it? Rog No one is going to install concreted in rings for nothing.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2018 14:01:44 GMT
To be fair to CRT they just sorted some of the towpath at ansty on the coventry and have actually left the rings in place, which surprised me, thought they would have buried them under the wacker plated debris.
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Post by naughtyfox on May 4, 2018 14:54:45 GMT
Why when they resurface towpaths do they not leave space for mooring pins? Obviously sometimes there isn't room. Where I am at the moment there are miles of "improved" towpath and no where for boats to moor. All the mooring spots locally are 48h and crowded. Surely Crt should put rings in when they do something like this. Maybe for every mooring made 48hrs there should be a replacement provided in the local area? I thought the 48-hours was just some concocted nonsense and not actually CRT's legal right to impose. 14 days isn't it, by some Act of Parliament? I suppose the idea is like musical chairs, keep taking long-stay moorings free away and have a laugh whilst the headless chickens run round looking for a 48-hour mooring where they can "officially" be for 48 hours - yes, have all the chickens cooped up in marinas for milking of rent, let them out occasionally - but not for too long!
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Post by naughtyfox on May 4, 2018 14:57:48 GMT
Absolutely. Rings do less damage to the bank than pins. And as towpath work is usually done by other agencies, a condition to add rings wouldn't cost would it? Rog it just seems to make sense, it's almost as if cart don't want boats to be able to moor up. The mental patients must go back to the marina before it gets dark! Absolutely no mooring and talking to strangers on the towpath!
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2018 15:45:15 GMT
When we broke down a couple of years ago we had to drag the boat about a mile or so before there was anywhere to hammer in a pin due to the tarmac extending right to the edge stones, wasn't even anything around to tie off temporary to have a look what had gone wrong! Remnants of a few rawl bolts in the edging stones told me how to deal with the problem if it ever crops up again, if I'd had an M8 eye bolt I could maybe have got it in to some of those remanants, or if I'd had a rawl bolt and hammer drill I could have made my own mooring ring. I think carrying the kit to put in my own mooring rings is the way forward. I wondered about making up pitons from old vehicle leaf springs. Use the end bit which already has an eye in it, cut a 10 inch length and grind down the end to a thin tapering wedge and heat treat it for hardness. Whack these into the gaps between the coping stones and tie boat to them. Don't know if it would work and mooring patrol humanoid units may log it and raise an objection. Or a hilti gun with threaded studs. Or SDS drill and inserts. The ideal thing would be drill and put in M12 internally threadef inserts then carry your own eye bolts. That would be excellent. Or spud legs? Or maybe 4 arms which fold out each with a circular rubber pad which can then be clamped down onto the path with an acme thread. If it was done right I reckon that would hold the boat in place.
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Post by naughtyfox on May 4, 2018 15:59:33 GMT
I can't believe you missed this one, you old sausage - glue MAGNETS to the side of your boat, move towards the piling and CLANG! you're moored!
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