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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2018 9:06:53 GMT
I wonder if the watertight compartment at the front was used as a store of some sort while the boat was tied up in the dock. Then whoever prepared the boat just boarded over the opening like they did with the windows - fixing the boards from inside the main cabin rather than welding it shut or fitting a proper hatch. Once water gets into the compartment it will slosh about and burst the board into the main cabin and the rest as they say is history.
Seems quite a likely scenario but all speculation obviously !
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Post by TonyDunkley on May 30, 2018 9:07:30 GMT
The thing I can't get my head around is the number quoted, Why, in anybody's world, would someone pay £245k plus whatever for that pile of scrap? Insurance scam? (note the question mark!) I hope you're not suggesting that certain people in the Gloucester/Sharpness area didn't really want the "Oliver Cromwell" ever to reach it's destination and it's new owner, . . . perish the thought !
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Post by naughtyfox on May 30, 2018 9:18:22 GMT
I just said that as Maggers wondered about the price tag. Perhaps it was worth that amount? Who was the buyer, and how did they arrive at the conclusion that £245k was right? Was the boat going to be used for a business in Ireland?
Insurance scam gone wrong and now some other insurance company has to pick up the tab? Probably just a genuine mishap - but in this case won't the authorities be looking at everyone's credentials, such as the tug boat driver's licence? Not a good advert for their 'services', is it?
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Post by TonyDunkley on May 30, 2018 9:18:29 GMT
I wonder if the watertight compartment at the front was used as a store of some sort while the boat was tied up in the dock. Then whoever prepared the boat just boarded over the opening like they did with the windows - fixing the boards from inside the main cabin rather than welding it shut or fitting a proper hatch. Once water gets into the compartment it will slosh about and burst the board into the main cabin and the rest as they say is history. Seems quite a likely scenario but all speculation obviously ! It may be speculation, but it's entirely plausible and distinctly possible. Something that is absolutely certain, however, is that the collision bulkhead that the vessel should have had in place and in sound and watertight condition, failed to perform it's designed function.
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Post by TonyDunkley on May 30, 2018 9:32:32 GMT
I just said that as Maggers wondered about the price tag. Perhaps it was worth that amount? Who was the buyer, and how did they arrive at the conclusion that £245k was right? Was the boat going to be used for a business in Ireland? See my post approx one third of the way down page 2, Ross.
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Post by IainS on May 30, 2018 10:07:23 GMT
At about 11 minutes in on the video, there appears to be water discharging from the port side, near the bow.
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Post by naughtyfox on May 30, 2018 11:02:31 GMT
I just said that as Maggers wondered about the price tag. Perhaps it was worth that amount? Who was the buyer, and how did they arrive at the conclusion that £245k was right? Was the boat going to be used for a business in Ireland? See my post approx one third of the way down page 2, Ross. Gotcha! Presumably Seamus will be getting refunded in full, if it were the case that the Oliver Cromwell sank because of (possible/alleged) negligence on the part of the towing crew/firm.
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Post by TonyDunkley on May 30, 2018 13:23:03 GMT
I e-mailed a link to the video clip I posted on page 2 of this thread to Seamus Carey of Crannagh Marina, owners of "Oliver Cromwell", earlier this morning with a note drawing their attention to the collision with the dock wall at 7.59 - 8.00 on the video.
On departure from Sharpness the vessel was carrying what looked like around 6" - 9" of stern trim, but speaking with a colleague of Seamus Carey's on the phone after they got the e-mail and link he told me they'd had a report that before the tug and tow had even left the river estuary and entered the Bristol Channel (ie. somewhere between Severn Beach and Aust, where the bridges are) that the "Oliver Cromwell" had already taken on enough head trim for it to be noticeable from the shore.
It looks as if the tug company, Griffin Towage Ltd of Poole, will have to get their heads together with Mr Beacham and the Surveyor(s) who signed off his work in trying to explain their way out of this spectacularly unprofessional performance !
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Post by naughtyfox on May 30, 2018 13:46:17 GMT
"By using Griffin Towage for a tow you will benefit from dealing with a relatively small, efficient operator, with costs and prices lower than many competitors, offering a personal service with care being taken over every detail." www.griffintowage.com/About-Us/
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Post by kris on May 30, 2018 13:51:36 GMT
Let's hope there insurance is up to date.
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Post by naughtyfox on May 30, 2018 13:57:56 GMT
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Post by TonyDunkley on May 30, 2018 14:00:06 GMT
Let's hope there insurance is up to date. . . . and their P45's !
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Post by Mr Stabby on May 30, 2018 14:09:59 GMT
Tsk, it's naughty and unnecessary to correct the spelling or grammar of other posters. Unless it's TellyMackus.
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Post by kris on May 30, 2018 15:18:52 GMT
Tsk, it's naughty and unnecessary to correct the spelling or grammar of other posters. Unless it's TellyMackus. Let alone tiresome and boring.
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Post by kris on May 30, 2018 15:20:22 GMT
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