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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 18:27:33 GMT
Lots but can't be arsed to get into too much of a discussion as some of what I know is historical. I will say that the detector vans did exist and work - I occasionally drove one and did an apprenticeship (in an slightly unrelated discipline) with the son of someone who developed the Mk 1 equipment.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 18:40:22 GMT
Which thread please? Don't wish to read them all Rog I don’t need to, I’ve met him several times and KNOW he’s a lovely guy.. Just to add I did use the word 'even' in an earlier post, just because someone is lovely and knowledgeable in some areas does not mean they can't be wrong at other times. And sometimes should have the sense to keep quiet...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 18:49:27 GMT
Jobsworth = An ‘official’ who upholds petty rules even at the expense of humanity or common sense. Anyone come across any of these whilst exploring the system? You know, some local guy (nothing to do with CRT, maybe pretending to be official) peering through your window and making a big point about taking your boat number. Just rereading your post it reminded me of a knobend on the K&A at Limpley Stoke in the winter of 2000/2001 which I spent on the K&A including a short stay in the aforementioned area. This bloke turned up and put a "documents enclosed" sticker on another boat. I was cutting some firewood and asked him if he was a BW man he said "no". So I asked what he was up to and he showed me inside his shoulder bag - a whole load of documents enclosed envelopes he was going to be putting on boats. I have since learned that this was an MI6 intelligence-led experimental operation but at the time the bloke did seem like a real plonker.
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 17, 2018 18:54:58 GMT
Which thread please? Don't wish to read them all Rog I don’t need to, I’ve met him several times and KNOW he’s a lovely guy.. Agreed, top guy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 19:00:12 GMT
I arrived at Colwich lock once, on the T&M canal.
The lock was empty with no opposing traffic, so I quickly lifted the gate paddle, before moving to the ground paddles.
"You should open ground paddles first" came a voice from behind me.
I turned to find a bloke with a windlass over his shoulder.
I pointed out that the lock was empty, but he insisted I didn't know what I was doing and the ground paddles had to be opened first.
I suggested he may wish to 'go for a stroll' and he went off 'in high dudgeon' as they say.
I took him for a C&RT volunteer, but I discovered later he's just a local who has a windlass and likes to use it.
Bless!
Rog
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 19:11:37 GMT
If you open the gate paddles first the lock will fill quicker unless there are baffles over the outlets. To some people filling the lock as efficiently as possible is important. Other people read instructions and let someone else do the thinking.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 19:16:35 GMT
Lots but can't be arsed to get into too much of a discussion as some of what I know is historical. I will say that the detector vans did exist and work - I occasionally drove one and did an apprenticeship (in an slightly unrelated discipline) with the son of someone who developed the Mk 1 equipment. Fear tactics is all it was. The BBC are so good at it that most people don’t even realise what they are getting. They are now infecting YouTube with the same bollocks. Videos of unsuspecting victims getting cold calls from bullies. You want to be part of this bull? Good luck.
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 17, 2018 19:17:39 GMT
If you open the gate paddles first the lock will fill quicker unless there are baffles over the outlets. To some people filling the lock as efficiently as possible is important. Other people read instructions and let someone else do the thinking. That is a bold statement based on no science. It depends on the size of the gate paddle vs the size of the ground paddle. On the lock mentioned, I think it would fill quicker with the ground paddle first, but the difference would be marginal and inconsequential.
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Post by thebfg on Jul 17, 2018 19:22:01 GMT
I work on retail and I can't do much more for my customers. I put my self out daily.
however when u get the idiots that get aggressive and swear loads thinking they are right. I do go into jobsworth mode knowing my bosses would have to support me if they complain.
luckily our cameras have microphones so it's all recorded.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 19:28:29 GMT
Lots but can't be arsed to get into too much of a discussion as some of what I know is historical. I will say that the detector vans did exist and work - I occasionally drove one and did an apprenticeship (in an slightly unrelated discipline) with the son of someone who developed the Mk 1 equipment. Fear tactics is all it was. The BBC are so good at it that most people don’t even realise what they are getting. ..... Pretty much accurate except that it wasn't all it was - the equipment worked - when it was worthwhile sorting the frequent faults - mainly before demonstrating to the press. Before taking a van into a particular area you used to inform all the local Post Offices to order extra TV licence forms, otherwise there were complaints from the public (who considered us jobsworths...).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 19:28:59 GMT
If you open the gate paddles first the lock will fill quicker unless there are baffles over the outlets. To some people filling the lock as efficiently as possible is important. Other people read instructions and let someone else do the thinking. That is a bold statement based on no science. It depends on the size of the gate paddle vs the size of the ground paddle. On the lock mentioned, I think it would fill quicker with the ground paddle first, but the difference would be marginal and inconsequential. Nothing I post on here is serious enough to be described as a "bold statement". I have been through that lock once or twice but it was about 20 years ago and I did not have a stopwatch with me. However I do believe in general opening the paddle(s) in the upper gate(s) before any ground paddles will result in faster lock filling.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 19:33:24 GMT
It will fill quicker opening the gate paddle because that was the first I came to. I then opened the ground paddles, which I had to move to reach. No boat in the lock was the point, so it didn't matter. You jobsworths....making me explain Rog
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Post by bills on Jul 17, 2018 19:36:29 GMT
Lots but can't be arsed to get into too much of a discussion as some of what I know is historical. I will say that the detector vans did exist and work - I occasionally drove one and did an apprenticeship (in an slightly unrelated discipline) with the son of someone who developed the Mk 1 equipment. Did that involve the "optical detection equipment" mentioned in the BBC's response to a freedom of information request on the subject?
Peeking through the window?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 19:38:59 GMT
Lots but can't be arsed to get into too much of a discussion as some of what I know is historical. I will say that the detector vans did exist and work - I occasionally drove one and did an apprenticeship (in an slightly unrelated discipline) with the son of someone who developed the Mk 1 equipment. Did that involve the "optical detection equipment" mentioned in the BBC's response to a freedom of information request on the subject?
Peeking through the window?
Nope, that was the routine day job
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 19:43:43 GMT
It will fill quicker opening the gate paddle because that was the first I came to. I then opened the ground paddles, which I had to move to reach. No boat in the lock was the point, so it didn't matter. You jobsworths....making me explain Rog That's part of it yes. Time is of the essence so it makes sense to immediately operate the first piece of equipment you arrive at unless there is a reason not to. As Telemachus is doing the science challenge I would suggest that IF the ground paddle opening had the same area as the paddle in the top gate then the latter would introduce water into the chamber faster due to it being a free flow whereas the former would usually involve introducing water to the chamber below the existing water level therefore there would be some resistance to water entry.
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