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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 8:06:07 GMT
Its proper grim up north at the minute with all these breaches, low pounds and shrinking locks, the only real noise from the south as far as i can see is vegetation on the GU, ok Oxford is low but that is the same every summer.
Midlands seems to be the best place to boat i would say.
Is CRT up to something in the north, letting it go slowly?
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 18, 2018 8:30:32 GMT
I think it's a bit of a vicious circle. CRT won't spend money on the northern waterways because very few boats use them, and boaters won't use them because of the difficulties of navigation.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 8:46:45 GMT
2014 saw Vince Moran announce CRT were going to invest £10 million on northern canals. This spend became evident during 2015-16 and 17, with people noting the results. It came after constant complaints to CRT that they were neglecting the northern system in favour of the south. I suspect the money was spent specifically to show a visual impact, rather than deal with deep underlying issues. Anyway, the grant for the area has run out, and CRT has moved to a national budget in preference to area ones.
The problems will get worse from here on in, because CRT's income is pretty much swallowed up by everything other than canal maintenance.
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 18, 2018 9:23:16 GMT
I think it's a bit of a vicious circle. CRT won't spend money on the northern waterways because very few boats use them, and boaters won't use them because of the difficulties of navigation. But then again if you look at the outer reaches of the BCN, 15-20 years ago they were awful shallow rubbish strewn ditches with no boats. But with a programme of dredging, and locks generally in good order, these days there are a lot more boats. So the circle can be broken if CRT have a mind to do it. I think a lot depends on who the regional manager is.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 11:07:55 GMT
I don't really understand the negativity towards the L&L. I agree lots of work is needed up there, but even as it is, the locks and swing bridges are no more difficult than the K&A, and the rewards for the effort is infinitely greater. I wonder if historical fears around Wigan, Blackburn and Burnley are the reason? We've just moored in Stone for a bit of shopping. We were all alone yesterday near the Wedgewood factory, but by 4pm the place was nose to tail with boats. Like being in a marina! After a summer on the L&L I couldn't stand feeling hemmed in, so we upped sticks and cruised to bridge 102 where no one else was in sight, or could moor with us even if they wished So I'm torn between keeping the place fairly boat free and suffering the lack of maintenance, or encouraging use and losing the peace. Rog
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 11:08:17 GMT
Yeah problem is there is a lot more locks oop north..
I have not travelled much so when i see the state of some of the locks on the system i am shocked, even last year going down the Oxford and seeing locks with only one paddle working and gates that look like they were installed a very log time ago amazes me, the locks around the midlands appear to be in much batter shape.
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Post by bargemast on Jul 18, 2018 11:38:32 GMT
2014 saw Vince Moran announce CRT were going to invest £10 million on northern canals. This spend became evident during 2015-16 and 17, with people noting the results. It came after constant complaints to CRT that they were neglecting the northern system in favour of the south. I suspect the money was spent specifically to show a visual impact, rather than deal with deep underlying issues. Anyway, the grant for the area has run out, and CRT has moved to a national budget in preference to area ones. The problems will get worse from here on in, because CRT's income is pretty much swallowed up by everything other than canal maintenance. As the name of this guy didn't sound familiar to me, I had to have a look to see if I could find anything about him, and so I did.
He had an early retirement (why not) but what disgusted me most was all the crap written on the right about all the good things and projects of C&RT, they seem to be very pleased for themselfs with the things they've done, but possibly mainly only on paper, as the reality of "Making life better by water" does seem to be nothing more then a dream for many boaters that would like to see water in the canals, instead of the canal bottoms rapidly reaching the surface.
It's too bad that many boater don't understand how very useful the unbelievably expensive rebranding has been, if they're honest they can say that they see as clearly as they can see the mud from the canal bottom much closer now, which should be an advantage to know that they can't go hardly anywhere anymore without running aground, and by doing so avoiding any risk of sinking (H&S)
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Post by kris on Jul 18, 2018 12:26:04 GMT
Life by the overflowing CRT Biffa bins is distinctly very smelly and unhygienic - where is the Health Inspector when you need him? You can always move from Gargrave, you must of been there for a month at least now?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 13:03:10 GMT
Must HAVE.
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Post by kris on Jul 18, 2018 13:10:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 13:36:02 GMT
Twat
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Post by kris on Jul 18, 2018 13:46:55 GMT
You can always move from Gargrave, you must of been there for a month at least now? It's OK, Kris, I told him our engine's broke what waiting for some new oil?
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Post by bills on Jul 18, 2018 14:14:12 GMT
I think it's a bit of a vicious circle. CRT won't spend money on the northern waterways because very few boats use them, and boaters won't use them because of the difficulties of navigation. I think a lot depends on who the regional manager is. I have come to the same conclusion after taking a trip from Banbury to the Caldon earlier this summer. It was very noticeable that the Manchester and Pennines infrastructure (T&M and Caldon) was better maintained than the South East Area. No broken paddles, and all the locks had stop boards available housed in little shelters, many of which seemed to be recently renewed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 14:20:40 GMT
naughtyfox Engine is brokeN - not engine is broke I don't know how it could have gotten to this point as usually Bukh are very reliable units.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 14:22:12 GMT
Indeed. Specially the mono grade 30,
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