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Post by on Sept 19, 2024 19:18:06 GMT
Dell quay dory with a 40 on it. like shit of a shovel but make sure the foam beyoncé has not filled with water and become ballast.
Sorry about the pop reference. She's my dream singer. A really bad dream.
But anyway Orkney also did good dories. Sounds to me like you want a dory. A good one. With a 40 horse outboard.
They go well and are stable. Watch the foam core ! I remember the ads in the magazines the Dell Quay Dory 13 was filled with bricks and children and water and it still floated. Crikey those parents must have been pissed off !
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 19, 2024 21:40:51 GMT
Dell quay dory with a 40 on it. like shit of a shovel but make sure the foam beyoncé has not filled with water and become ballast. Sorry about the pop reference. She's my dream singer. A really bad dream. But anyway Orkney also did good dories. Sounds to me like you want a dory. A good one. With a 40 horse outboard. They go well and are stable. Watch the foam core ! I remember the ads in the magazines the Dell Quay Dory 13 was filled with bricks and children and water and it still floated. Crikey those parents must have been pissed off ! Problem with dories is that they have low freeboard and don't behave at all well in a short chop. We get plenty of that around here. They are great on flat seas. You can pick up a decent Dell Quay with a 40 for £2K or so, less than half what I'm looking to spend. There are plenty of them out there as well. Some folk buy them for fishing but generally move them on, having realised their error. The most popular fast fishing boats are what are termed 'cathedral hull'. This is basically a dory but has a deeper v central in the hull. This softens out the ride a little. They still slam in a chop when on the plane but aren't likely to remove your fillings. They also have a higher freeboard which is an important safety consideration given that your stood up a lot of the time, when fishing.
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Post by deleted on Sept 19, 2024 21:51:57 GMT
The thing about cathedral hulls is they attract odd things that stick to the hull. They sort of resemble eggs in appearance and have tremendous suction abilities. Which is why they're commonly known as 'sucking eggs'.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 19, 2024 21:56:51 GMT
First photo that came up. Rog The one I'm looking at is the discontinued 450. Struggling for pictures but this video gives a fair impression. Here's the boat out in sea conditions no small boat should be out in, really.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 19, 2024 21:58:48 GMT
The thing about cathedral hulls is they attract odd things that stick to the hull. They sort of resemble eggs in appearance and have tremendous suction abilities. Which is why they're commonly known as 'sucking eggs'. Barnacles. And then there's weed and slime. And then, it's difficult to get any potential antifouling paint to stick to plastic.
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Post by deleted on Sept 19, 2024 22:05:46 GMT
There's this new stuff you can get called 'grandmother paint'.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 19, 2024 22:16:11 GMT
My grandmother died years ago so that doesn't offer a solution I'm afraid. I'm stuck with 'hull waxes' which seem to be a brand of snake oil, or looking towards the automotive trade for a primer that actually sticks to plastic.
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Post by deleted on Sept 19, 2024 22:29:14 GMT
Well being an expert I'm sure you know best.
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Post by Telemachus on Sept 20, 2024 7:11:34 GMT
… looking towards the automotive trade for a primer that actually sticks to plastic. This stuff was recommended to me for applying to Perspex (glider canopy edge), plastic primer filler. Designed for plastic car bumpers www.ebay.co.uk/itm/144611914164 Is fairly thick though, would need thinning if you are going to spray it. MIPA also do a plastic adhesion promoter primer.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Sept 20, 2024 7:14:12 GMT
Two pairs of boats, big Woolwich's, operated by Willow Wren Canal Transport Services - formerly Willow Wren Canal Carrying Co. until Leslie Morton re-formed the company in the late 1960's, and the boatmen became self-employed, renting/hiring the boats by the week and responsible for buying their own diesel and ropes etc. Both pairs are loading slack for Colne Valley Sewage Works, . . one of Willow Wren CTS's last traffics, ending in, as far as I can remember, late 1969, when I was sub-contracting to Blue Line, loading from Baddesley to Kearley & Tonge at Southall (the 'Jam Hole') with 'Jaguar' and 'Achilles'. Unlike the 'DS Nuts' we loaded from Baddesley, the slack for Colne Valley had to be kept bone dry, otherwise it clogged up the furnace blower burners at the sewage works. The pair loading - butty 'Bedworth' already loaded and clothed-up, and the motor that's loading, I think either 'Alton' or maybe it was 'Aldgate', were worked by Ronny and Mrs Green, and the pair waiting to load next, 'Dipper' and, I think 'Baildon', were worked by John Henry and Mrs Meese, . . Ronny Green's father and mother-in-law. That's all I've time for now, . . there's lots more !
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Post by deleted on Sept 20, 2024 7:14:39 GMT
That would stop the eggsuckers
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Post by Jim on Sept 20, 2024 7:38:22 GMT
Two pairs of boats, big Woolwich's, operated by Willow Wren Canal Transport Services - formerly Willow Wren Canal Carrying Co. until Leslie Morton re-formed the company in the late 1960's, and the boatmen became self-employed, renting/hiring the boats by the week and responsible for buying their own diesel and ropes etc. Both pairs are loading slack for Colne Valley Sewage Works, . . one of Willow Wren CTS's last traffics, ending in, as far as I can remember, late 1969. The slack had to be kept bone dry, otherwise it clogged up the furnace blower burners at the sewage works. The pair loading - butty 'Bedworth' already loaded and clothed-up, and the motor that's loading, I think either 'Alton' or maybe it was 'Aldgate', were worked by Ronny and Mrs Green, and the pair waiting to load next, 'Dipper' and, I think 'Baildon', were worked by John Henry and Mrs Meese, . . Ronny Green's father and mother-in-law. That's all I've time for now, . . there's lots more ! great post. If you could only wind your neck in and stop posting tripe you would be appreciated as an expert. You hold a mine of information.
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Post by deleted on Sept 20, 2024 7:49:50 GMT
I once went on board Bedworth when it was a houseboat but still in 100% working trim and in fantastic condition. The back-cabin was really something. Longer than a motor's back-cabin of course.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 20, 2024 8:01:49 GMT
… looking towards the automotive trade for a primer that actually sticks to plastic. This stuff was recommended to me for applying to Perspex (glider canopy edge), plastic primer filler. Designed for plastic car bumpers www.ebay.co.uk/itm/144611914164 Is fairly thick though, would need thinning if you are going to spray it. MIPA also do a plastic adhesion promoter primer. That looks worth a shot. Whether further coats of antifoul would stick to it though. Probably. It's grey, which is good because the hull is grey too so if it flakes off in large patches it wouldn't be a total disaster.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Sept 20, 2024 8:05:04 GMT
Two pairs of boats, big Woolwich's, operated by Willow Wren Canal Transport Services - formerly Willow Wren Canal Carrying Co. until Leslie Morton re-formed the company in the late 1960's, and the boatmen became self-employed, renting/hiring the boats by the week and responsible for buying their own diesel and ropes etc. Both pairs are loading slack for Colne Valley Sewage Works, . . one of Willow Wren CTS's last traffics, ending in, as far as I can remember, late 1969. The slack had to be kept bone dry, otherwise it clogged up the furnace blower burners at the sewage works. The pair loading - butty 'Bedworth' already loaded and clothed-up, and the motor that's loading, I think either 'Alton' or maybe it was 'Aldgate', were worked by Ronny and Mrs Green, and the pair waiting to load next, 'Dipper' and, I think 'Baildon', were worked by John Henry and Mrs Meese, . . Ronny Green's father and mother-in-law. That's all I've time for now, . . there's lots more ! . . . great post. . . . You hold a mine of information. You're absolutely right, here's some more great information. The only difference being, this is what's actually happening NOW ! ________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 'March Hare' An urgent Appeal to trace and contact the recent buyer of a boat named 'March Hare', sold by brokers Commercial Boat Services of Chester during the week commencing Monday 29 July 2024.
_________________________________________________________________________________________ 'March Hare' (C&RT Index No 68691) was sold by brokers Commercial Boat Services during the week commencing Monday 29 July 2024. Prior to the sale, the boat was held in the Canal & River Trust's very costly secure storage facility maintained by the Trust on farmland at Dodleston, near Chester and owned by Brian Clarke, the Proprietor and Managing Director of Canal & River Trust's appointed boat seizure and removal contractors, Commercial Boat Services. The secure storage facility maintained by the Canal & River Trust and owned by Commercial Boat Services MD Brian Clarke is used by the Canal & River Trust for no other purpose than to first store and then dispose of, by selling or scrapping, boats seized and confiscated on the instructions of the Canal & River Trust from their registered rightful owners by Brian Clarke's company, Commercial Boat Services. On 11 May 2023, Commercial Boat Services were instructed by the Canal & River Trust to evict the liveaboard owner from 'March Hare', then to seize and remove the boat from the Kennet & Avon Canal at Bradford-on-Avon. With the unlawful eviction of George Ward, the disabled boat owner accomplished, 'March Hare' was craned out of the canal then transported by road from Bradford-on-Avon to Commercial Boat Services MD Brian Clarke's farm at Dodleston, just outside Chester, and held (with the disabled owner refused access to his home) in the Commercial Boat Services secure storage facility, supposedly pending resolution of a long running Pleasure Boat Licensing dispute with the Canal & River Trust, . . a dispute initiated by the Canal & River Trust when it had earlier refused, on a dubious technicality, to renew 'March Hare's Pleasure Boat Licence. Although it is yet to be admitted, the seizure of 'March Hare' by the Canal & River Trust, and the subsequent transporting away and confiscation of the boat, was primarily for the purpose of exercising a lien on an item of George Ward's property. This action was both unnecessary and wholly unlawful, because at the time George Ward was evicted from the boat, and the boat seized on the instructions of the Canal & River Trust, there was no Judgment Debt entered against George Ward in favour of the Canal & River Trust in any UK Court, nor was there any Order, or Warrant or Writ of Control issued by any UK Court in force authorising or ordering the seizure and sale of any goods or property belonging to George Ward. However, with the boat then in the Trust's possession, and the owner being dishonestly led to believe by the Canal & River Trust's Customer Service Manager, Matthew Aymes, that there was a legitimate lien on his boat, the Canal & River Trust was in practice and effect, free to do anything it chose to with George Ward's boat, including selling it, illegally, without his prior knowledge or consent. The Trust's actions, and more so, the documentation served on George Ward by the Canal & River Trust, both prior to and post the seizure and confiscation of his boat/home, demonstrate and prove beyond any question or doubt that this is so. Despite being fully aware of the true legal position with regard to the ownership of and unencumbered title to George Ward's boat/home, the Canal & River Trust's Customer Service Manager, Matthew Aymes, and the Canal & River Trust's retained Solicitor-Advocate, Lucy Barry instructed Commercial Boat Services to sell 'March Hare' at some time during the week commencing Monday 29 July 2024, from where it had remained impounded, with no owner access permitted, at Brian Clarke's farm at Dodleston, near Chester, since 11 May 2023. Commercial Boat Services had no right or lawful authority to sell 'March Hare', but did so on the express instructions of Canal & River Trust Customer Service Manager, Matthew Aymes, and Canal & River Trust retained Solicitor-Advocate, Lucy Barry. The fraudulent sale of the boat at that time, absent the prior agreement and authorisation of the owner, and absent any Court Order, or Warrant or Writ of Control authorising or ordering the sale, amounts to theft under the relevant applicable Sections of the Theft Act 1968. Commercial Boat Services were given until close of business on Monday 5 August 2024 to resolve this matter by way of formally cancelling the sale, and making proposals for appropriate restitution to the owner of 'March Hare', after which time in the absence of such required action on the part of Commercial Boat Services,*the unauthorised fraudulent sale of 'March Hare' would be reported to the Police as theft. __________________________________________________________________________________________________ Will anyone reading this notice/appeal, please pass it on by re-posting it, with my contact details, on any other website, webpages, or forum to which they have participating access.
Will anyone who has been deprived of their boat, or knows anyone who has been deprived of their boat, by the Canal & River Trust or any person or company acting as agents for the Canal & River Trust, in circumstances the same as or similar to those described above, please contact me directly.
Will anyone who has bought a boat from Commercial Boat Services at any time during the last 12 years, or knows anyone who has bought a boat from Commercial Boat Services at any time during the last 12 years, please contact me directly. You, or the person you know, may be the innocent victims of fraud.
My contact details are :- E-mail: Tonydtrent@gmail.com -or- Mobile 07903 063179 * For further details and more information, see also this post:- thunderboat.boards.net/post/406148/thread
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