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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2019 10:32:51 GMT
Half the country disagree, they and I feel part of Europe, striving for a better world. Rather than splitting into tiny factions, building walls (metaphorical in Britains case) and being divisive and isolationist. So if we're not in the eu, we won't be in Europe? Bless! Perhaps if they renamed the EU to the ‘United States of Europe’ it might help focus minds. The whole idea of unity is a good one and one worth striving for. So I do understand Jim’s sentiments. However unity relies on everyone’s voice being heard, not just the voices of the few in influencial positions. Unity could work in a dictatorship if the dictatorship is driven by love and kindness, I’ve not seen much of that in our leadership yet TBH, certainly not while we are still killing innocents around the world in the name of greed.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 24, 2019 10:40:15 GMT
I suspect the problem here John is that most of the protesting remainers can’t see the long reaching damage the EU is doing to democracy. I saw a banner held up by a child on that protest (picture) which basically said that we shouldn’t mess with their future by leaving the EU. This seemed odd to me as surely the protest was about a second referendum, not remain!? Can’t they see that caving into the EU dictatorship could result in children losing the right to vote in the future? Do the children understand the long reaching consequences of the banners they are asked to hold up? Does Jim? (Less than) Half the country disagree, they and I feel part of Europe, striving for a better world.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2019 10:42:02 GMT
Not really reliable, and more importantly, nowhere near the numbers needed to stay in. In fact looking at the figures today, I would suggest another referendum would see a bigger majority wanting to leave. God only knows what excuse people like yourself would come up with in attempts to nullify that.
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Post by Jim on Mar 24, 2019 10:43:26 GMT
Keep up on the back row, the Celtic Warriors all voted remain and want their independence. ALL. 62%/38% on your logoc that's not even half of the population. You cant have it both ways. try Specsavers, the Celtic warriors are those that voted remain, if they voted leave they are just little quitlings. So your pedantic semantics aren't valid. 😋
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2019 10:44:31 GMT
ALL. 62%/38% on your logoc that's not even half of the population. You cant have it both ways. try Specsavers, the Celtic warriors are those that voted remain, if they voted leave they are just little quitlings. So your pedantic semantics aren't valid. 😋 I've a sneaky suspicion you're one of those flat earthers.
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Post by Jim on Mar 24, 2019 10:45:06 GMT
I spot a paradox amongst quitlings. They claim they would win another referendum, but are frit of going for one. Strange.
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Post by wellyftw on Mar 24, 2019 10:45:44 GMT
In fact looking at the figures today, I would suggest another referendum would see a bigger majority wanting to leave. Which figures?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2019 10:47:44 GMT
Jim has still never answered (properly) why he wishes the UK to stay within the EU. He has just copied and pasted some old badly-written nonsense so far. The majority of remainers are like this. They are clueless, but shout anyway.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 24, 2019 10:50:13 GMT
I spot a paradox amongst quitlings. They claim they would win another referendum, but are frit of going for one. Strange. What would be the point of another referendum? If the result went against you, you wouldn't accept that one either, would you?
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Post by wellyftw on Mar 24, 2019 10:51:00 GMT
He has just copied and pasted some old badly-written nonsense so far. The majority of remainers are like this. They are clueless, but shout anyway. The majority of Brexiters are like that. They are clueless, but shout anyway.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 24, 2019 10:52:03 GMT
Jim has still never answered (properly) why he wishes the UK to stay within the EU. He has just copied and pasted some old badly-written nonsense so far. ............... which you would never dream of doing!! I have, actually, a few times - my vision of what the UK could strive for and become. You've either missed them or forgotten them. What kind of country do you think the UK should become, Bodger? Any thoughts? I would certainly like to see: 1. Politicians held to account and punished for breaking their election promises, fiddling their expenses, voting for pay rises for themselves, not working hard towards what their voters have asked. 2. An end to littering - the UK is awash with rubbish everywhere. Severe penalties for that. 3. Mostly Brits to be running their own country / industries / services. 4. The possibility of employment for all, good medical services for all, housing for all. 5. An awareness of the planet's finite resources, ethical sourcing of imports (no kidneys from political prisoners held in Chinese jails), and re-cycling schemes that are completely transparent to all. 6. Sensible immigration / emigration controls - e.g. if you have been studying at a British educational institution in which the UK has in some measure supported you, then you should use those skills and work to pay something back into the country before you are allowed to emigrate and work elsewhere and pay taxes to another country. Just something made up on the spot, obviously I can come up with more.
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Post by wellyftw on Mar 24, 2019 10:53:36 GMT
............... which you would never dream of doing!! I have, actually, a few times - my vision of what the UK could strive for and become. You've either missed them or forgotten them. What kind of country do you think the UK should become, Bodger? Any thoughts? I would certainly like to see: 1. Politicians held to account and punished for breaking their election promises, fiddling their expenses, voting for pay rises for themselves, not working hard towards what their voters have asked. 2. An end to littering - the UK is awash with rubbish everywhere. Severe penalties for that. 3. Mostly Brits to be running their own country / industries / services. 4. The possibility of employment for all, good medical services for all, housing for all. 5. An awareness of the planet's finite resources, ethical sourcing of imports (no kidneys from political prisoners held in Chinese jails), and re-cycling schemes that are completely transparent to all. 6. Sensible immigration / emigration controls - e.g. if you have been studying at a British educational institution in which the UK has in some measure supported you, then you should use those skills and work to pay something back into the country before you are allowed to emigrate and work elsewhere and pay taxes to another country. Just something made up on the spot, obviously I can come up with more. I would love to see all this. In combination with the protection of being part of the EU.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2019 11:01:30 GMT
The majority of remainers are like this. They are clueless, but shout anyway. The majority of Brexiters are like that. They are clueless, but shout anyway. Whether you are a remainer or leaver, if you don’t do the research and think for yourself, then you really are left clueless. The answer is usually in the middle. If the control freaks like Juncker had left the common market as it was rather than turn it into the monster it has become, none of us would be protesting. They want us fighting eachother as it gives them more control over us. Once we lose the right to have a voice it will be too late to turn back.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2019 11:04:08 GMT
I have, actually, a few times - my vision of what the UK could strive for and become. You've either missed them or forgotten them. What kind of country do you think the UK should become, Bodger? Any thoughts? I would certainly like to see: 1. Politicians held to account and punished for breaking their election promises, fiddling their expenses, voting for pay rises for themselves, not working hard towards what their voters have asked. 2. An end to littering - the UK is awash with rubbish everywhere. Severe penalties for that. 3. Mostly Brits to be running their own country / industries / services. 4. The possibility of employment for all, good medical services for all, housing for all. 5. An awareness of the planet's finite resources, ethical sourcing of imports (no kidneys from political prisoners held in Chinese jails), and re-cycling schemes that are completely transparent to all. 6. Sensible immigration / emigration controls - e.g. if you have been studying at a British educational institution in which the UK has in some measure supported you, then you should use those skills and work to pay something back into the country before you are allowed to emigrate and work elsewhere and pay taxes to another country. Just something made up on the spot, obviously I can come up with more. I would love to see all this. In combination with the protection of being part of the EU. You may have ‘comfort’ for a few years, but it won’t last without a vote.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 24, 2019 11:04:22 GMT
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