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Post by Clinton Cool on Aug 4, 2016 7:08:28 GMT
Another sad and tragic event.
The BBC, as usual, deny the public knowledge of the ethnicity and/ or religion or the perpetrator until they are forced to.
With less than 10% of the population being Muslim the odds of this mystery chap being Muslim should be 10 to 1. I'd bet a significant amount of money that he is indeed a follower of Allah, at odds much shorter than this.
Would you?
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 4, 2016 7:55:09 GMT
So what's your point? Is it that all muslims a liability and all should be treated as probable terrorists?
According to the Beeb so far, it is a mental health issue not an Islamist one.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Aug 4, 2016 8:05:29 GMT
No not all Muslims are a liability but most or all of these crimes are carried out by them.
When many people have mental health issues they might take to the bottle, beat up their partner or perhaps throw themselves off a motorway bridge. They wouldn't randomly attack strangers with a knife in a public place.
Off course the BBC does everything it can to deny for as long as possible that an incident is related to Islamic terrorism. That's the nature of the organisation.
Stop press: eye witness describes the perp as having dark skin. I guess the odds will tumble somewhat.
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 4, 2016 8:17:42 GMT
One of the flaws in your argument is that in some areas of London, most people have "dark skin" and so it isn't surprising if this guy has it.
Anyway certainly in the past people of all colours absolutely have attacked strangers with a knife when mentally ill. If they just take to the bottle, beat up their partner or jump off a bridge it doesn't make the national news.
I still don't really understand the underlying point you are trying to make about Muslims?
By the way, most paedophilic sexual assaults on young girls are perpetrated by their fathers. So should all fathers with daughters all be treated with the same suspicion that you seem to want to treat Muslims with?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 9:06:12 GMT
One of the flaws in your argument is that in some areas of London, most people have "dark skin" and so it isn't surprising if this guy has it. Anyway certainly in the past people of all colours absolutely have attacked strangers with a knife when mentally ill. If they just take to the bottle, beat up their partner or jump off a bridge it doesn't make the national news. I still don't really understand the underlying point you are trying to make about Muslims? By the way, most paedophilic sexual assaults on young girls are perpetrated by their fathers. So should all fathers with daughters all be treated with the same suspicion that you seem to want to treat Muslims with? It's August, lots of people have dark skin....(maybe not!). Anyway to pick up on all fathers being treated like paedophiles. I think the same paranoia effect is going on there as in other areas of life. I mean, given the choice of reading a newspaper on a park bench next to a play area, or find one another further away, what would a middle aged bloke on his own choose? Fear tactics work and are very successful at keeping us trapped in a paranoid shell. The media do a great job in feeding us very selectively. As I said before, how many stabbings and murders in this country don't you hear about perpetrated by those with white skin? In fact, I'd go as far aa saying that the fear tactics are causing some people to crack and cause problems. After all brainwashing is brainwashing whether called terrorism or not. It's all a symptom of an ever increasing control freaky world. |
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Post by Graham on Aug 4, 2016 10:30:30 GMT
Another sad and tragic event. The BBC, as usual, deny the public knowledge of the ethnicity and/ or religion or the perpetrator until they are forced to. With less than 10% of the population being Muslim the odds of this mystery chap being Muslim should be 10 to 1. I'd bet a significant amount of money that he is indeed a follower of Allah, at odds much shorter than this. Would you? Think you will find the BBC do not know. Technically the police are no allowed to release details of people arrested until either they are charged or before a magistrate. For years they have been leaking like a sieve but a couple or recent cases has caused the brakes to be put in. Put simple I suspect that that area of London has a highly mixed population so the odds that it was a non-christian are quite high. However to date there is not hint that it was a racial attack or a terrorist attack, rather it was an attack that involve mental health problems. |
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Post by Graham on Aug 4, 2016 11:08:41 GMT
Police News conference
The attacker was a Norwegian national of Somali origin. No evidence of radicalisation nor do the police believe it was anything to do with terrorism.
Taking a wild guess could be a Somali Christian refuge
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 4, 2016 12:43:50 GMT
Taking a wild guess could be a Somali Christian refuge Never mind that, he probably LOOKS like a Muslim so that is grounds enough for vilification. |
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Post by Graham on Aug 4, 2016 12:58:32 GMT
Taking a wild guess could be a Somali Christian refuge Never mind that, he probably LOOKS like a Muslim so that is grounds enough for vilification. Not sure how to reply are you joking or serious. The colour of ones skin should not open anyone to any form of vilification that is being racist. Being a dark skinned person does not make anyone a member of any religion |
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Post by ammodels on Aug 4, 2016 13:02:31 GMT
he is joking, pointing out to many the fact he is dark skinned and from Somalia is enough to brand him a muslim terrorist. Twitter is a cesspit of nutjobs already claiming jesuislondon or some bollocksology.
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Post by Graham on Aug 4, 2016 13:13:02 GMT
he is joking, pointing out to many the fact he is dark skinned and from Somalia is enough to brand him a muslim terrorist. Twitter is a cesspit of nutjobs already claiming jesuislondon or some bollocksology. I hope so, I never know with him |
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 4, 2016 13:15:48 GMT
he is joking, pointing out to many the fact he is dark skinned and from Somalia is enough to brand him a muslim terrorist. Twitter is a cesspit of nutjobs already claiming jesuislondon or some bollocksology. I hope so, I never know with him Well I think you probably do really. Anyway not so much joking as pointing out the fallacy of other people's prejudices. Perhaps I am too subtle for this site? |
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Post by bills on Aug 4, 2016 13:25:18 GMT
I am too subtle for this site? Wasn't that a song by Right Said Fred? |
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Post by Graham on Aug 4, 2016 13:29:09 GMT
I hope so, I never know with him Well I think you probably do really. Anyway not so much joking as pointing out the fallacy of other people's prejudices. Perhaps I am too subtle for this site? Perhaps this is not the subject nor the situation nor time in history |
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Post by ammodels on Aug 4, 2016 13:35:40 GMT
Well I think you probably do really. Anyway not so much joking as pointing out the fallacy of other people's prejudices. Perhaps I am too subtle for this site? Perhaps this is not the subject nor the situation nor time in history Its exactly the time and subject, we are british, taking the piss out of everything is a national pastime, it is in our DNA black humour and Irony was born in the UK and we do it better than anyone. Nothing should ever make us change. |
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