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Post by JohnV on May 5, 2019 7:02:33 GMT
I have 150 newton self inflating lifejackets by XM yachting on Sabina. They are like the ones on the left of your pictures and are suitable for all (and more) of the boating conditions you are ever going to encounter (unless you take up round the world yachting)
the 50 newtons are for canoeists, 100 for dinghy sailors
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Post by bargemast on May 5, 2019 7:09:30 GMT
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Post by JohnV on May 5, 2019 7:11:34 GMT
Just one thing to remember about self inflating life jackets Ross Don't wear them inside !!!
If you are inside a boat when it sinks and the life jacket goes off you can be pinned to the roof and be unable to escape. Wear a crotch strap otherwise you will fall out of it in the water (I know many professionals don't but they are only wearing them because they would be in trouble if they didn't)
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Post by bargemast on May 5, 2019 7:21:27 GMT
Just one thing to remember about self inflating life jackets Ross Don't wear them inside !!! If you are inside a boat when it sinks and the life jacket goes off you can be pinned to the roof and be unable to escape. Wear a crotch strap otherwise you will fall out of it in the water (I know many professionals don't but they are only wearing them because they would be in trouble if they didn't) That's a very good and useful warning John, and it's something that people rarely think of. Another thing that shouldn't be forgotten with these self inflating jackets is that they need to be tested every year (or 2 years depending on the instructions) as if you need one and it doesn't work, then it's almost as good as a stone, although they often have a possibility to inflate them by blowing them up with a tube that's attached to them. Only thing is if you fall overboard, hit your head or whatever, you forget that there's that possibility, if you're inconscious you don't think of much at all. Peter.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 7:42:03 GMT
I wonder if lifejackets statistically make you more likely to fall in the water.
Is it possible that the feeling of security people get wearing a life jacket tends to make them behave in a more risky manner?
Obviously there are events which are outside your individual control but there are also behaviour patterns which increase the probability of ending up in the water.
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Post by Jim on May 5, 2019 9:51:06 GMT
We have a pair, 150n with crotch strap. I prefer Noreen to wear it when working around locks, cos of her cataplexy. I wear mine too so she doesn't look odd. They all have to be made to a standard so I just went for a reasonable price. Thing is though, on most bits of canal, if you fall in, stand up. One more thing, no interfering while you are "helping" with the crotch strap๐๐๐๐
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Post by Trina on May 5, 2019 10:17:26 GMT
Make sure the crotch strap isn't too tight.. ๐ฎ๐ซ Wore ours on the Trent last year & they certainly didn't make us behave in a more blasรฉ fashion-it's a big river! PS We have a couple of extra Newtons compared to everyone else. ๐
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Post by greenman on May 5, 2019 13:33:37 GMT
Just one thing to remember about self inflating life jackets Ross Don't wear them inside !!! If you are inside a boat when it sinks and the life jacket goes off you can be pinned to the roof and be unable to escape. Wear a crotch strap otherwise you will fall out of it in the water (I know many professionals don't but they are only wearing them because they would be in trouble if they didn't) That's a very good and useful warning John, and it's something that people rarely think of. Another thing that shouldn't be forgotten with these self inflating jackets is that they need to be tested every year (or 2 years depending on the instructions) as if you need one and it doesn't work, then it's almost as good as a stone, although they often have a possibility to inflate them by blowing them up with a tube that's attached to them. Only thing is if you fall overboard, hit your head or whatever, you forget that there's that possibility, if you're inconscious you don't think of much at all. Peter.
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Post by greenman on May 5, 2019 13:37:59 GMT
Just to add to bargemast post. Check the firing mechanism and bottle every few months for signs of corrosion. Also before you replace the bottle when servicing, fire off the old one in the jacket an leave the bladder inflated for a couple of hours to make sure it's not leaking. If you sail much in open water or rivers would be worth investing in one with a light on it. And avoid the cheap imports available on a well known internet auction site
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 15:43:35 GMT
Hi all. New to the forum, I've been reading your posts with interest. I was a narrowboater in the days when the Thames was managed by something called the 'Thames Conservancy'.
Anyhow, this is a subject I may have some helpful words on so I thought I'd make my first post.
โข You do not need a life-jacket on the canal unless you have absolutely no ability to swim whatsoever, are likely to panic if you fall in, or you are in some way disabled. Self-inflating items are totally superfluous unless you fall into one of those categories.
โข As previously stated in a previous post, you can stand up in most places on the canal. However it is worth bearing in mind that locks present the greatest opportunity for getting it badly wrong.
โข If wearing a life-jacket has the effect of making you behave carelessly you clearly have no business on a boat of any type. Personally I would be nervous if you left the house.
โข Canoeists and dinghy sailors wear what is called a PFD (personal flotation device). They are commonly 50N. They are not a life-jacket but an aid to buoyancy. I have found them to be perfectly adequate when capsized in deep water (I am a dinghy sailor). Just so you know, I am also a fat git at around 16 stone. They do not have a crotch strap.
โข What is needed is something which has the least bulk. This will make it more likely you will actually wear it. An item with lots of pockets is a bit pointless since you are discouraged from putting anything in them (adds to the weight). My recommendation would thus be something aimed at the racing fraternity.
โข Acceptable and commonly-found brands include Crewsaver (a standard amongst sailors) and Yak. There are plenty of others, just as good. A shop I have used and would recommend is called BigOrangeWatersports. Anything this website sells will be ok.
โข Its worth thinking about this stuff since you can be sent to prison for manslaughter if its your boat and it all goes tits. How much is a fare to Georgia anyway?
Peace.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 15:49:12 GMT
Yes welcome @nemesis Good points specially the one about careless lifejacket wearers.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 16:12:40 GMT
Thanks chaps.
I was attracted to this forum because of the stated absence of moderators! But if I offend I was only pulling your leg. Probably.
Yep, some of it is pretty funny!
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 16:18:44 GMT
Self moderation here and I believe you will have to try a lot harder to offend anyone
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Post by Trina on May 5, 2019 16:51:41 GMT
Oh no,that sounds like a challenge !๐ค
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Post by Jim on May 5, 2019 16:56:34 GMT
Given your final comment, you should fit in here. But you need to go through the induction process.
Twat!
Job sorted. Welcome.
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