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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 8:27:36 GMT
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Post by bills on Aug 11, 2016 9:41:34 GMT
After seeing the photo, I think it's possible that it was nothing to do with homophobia - it could have just been a dislike of hipsters, and that's perfectly acceptable...
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 11, 2016 9:55:30 GMT
If you don't like hipsters, I'd say Hackney is possibly not the best place to live.  |
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 11, 2016 12:34:21 GMT
That news is old - I saw it about 3 months ago. Pretty sure it was the same or very very similar.
I'm all in favour of attactive lesbians kissing in Tesco's or opening cans of custard in Waitrose and getting naked and smothering themselves all over with it.
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 11, 2016 16:19:06 GMT
Yes homophobia is not dead, but it can be subtle.
I'll now have to admit that Jeff and I watch Eastenders <shock horror> and often when there is a story involving mental illness, bullying, robbery, domestic violence, bereavement, alcoholism, finding one's pet hamster squished, having manflu and just about anything you can think of, at the end there is the "if you are affected by this story, call this helpline 0xxxxxxxxxx". But when Ben and Paul (last seen holding hands in the street) were gay bashed resulting in the death of Paul, not a dickybird. Apparently gays are supposed to be accustomed to that sort of thing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 17:13:12 GMT
Yes homophobia is not dead, but it can be subtle. I'll now have to admit that Jeff and I watch Eastenders <shock horror> and often when there is a story involving mental illness, bullying, robbery, domestic violence, bereavement, alcoholism, finding one's pet hamster squished, having manflu and just about anything you can think of, at the end there is the "if you are affected by this story, call this helpline 0xxxxxxxxxx". But when Ben and Paul (last seen holding hands in the street) were gay bashed resulting in the death of Paul, not a dickybird. Apparently gays are supposed to be accustomed to that sort of thing. Have you been affected by watching Eastenders?  |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 11, 2016 17:29:52 GMT
Did you hear about the two queers who couldn't tell the difference between Vaseline and putty?
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Post by JohnV on Aug 11, 2016 18:16:28 GMT
There was a young couple called Kelly
Who were found stuck belly to belly
because in their haste
they had used library paste
instead of petroleum jelly
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 18:25:26 GMT
I think there needs to be consideration from both sides of the coin. A generation was brought up being told it was wrong (and I don't wish to go into the ins and outs of that, it happened). It will be this generation that will be more tolerant and understanding, there just needs to be a bit of patience and respect I think.
Excuse the pun, but ramming stuff down people's throats just tends to make them more stubborn.
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Post by JohnV on Aug 11, 2016 18:41:36 GMT
I think there needs to be consideration from both sides of the coin. A generation was brought up being told it was wrong (and I don't wish to go into the ins and outs of that, it happened). It will be this generation that will be more tolerant and understanding, there just needs to be a bit of patience and respect I think. Excuse the pun, but ramming stuff down people's throats just tends to make them more stubborn. From the "earlier" generation (sounds better than "older") I tend to disapprove of overt displays of affection (especially when they have a sexual aspect) in public, hetrosexual or homosexual. So from the OP "I may have put my hand round his waist" could well have been more like hand on bottom, which (again either homo or hetero) I would have found (mildly) offensive in a public place. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 18:45:54 GMT
I think there needs to be consideration from both sides of the coin. A generation was brought up being told it was wrong (and I don't wish to go into the ins and outs of that, it happened). It will be this generation that will be more tolerant and understanding, there just needs to be a bit of patience and respect I think. Excuse the pun, but ramming stuff down people's throats just tends to make them more stubborn. From the "earlier" generation (sounds better than "older") I tend to disapprove of overt displays of affection (especially when they have a sexual aspect) in public, hetrosexual or homosexual. So from the OP "I may have put my hand round his waist" could well have been more like hand on bottom, which (again either homo or hetero) I would have found (mildly) offensive in a public place. I guess that's where I am. There is a time and place etc. I think people should respect those that feel this way. (hence my ramming it down their throat comment). It works both ways at the end of the day. |
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Post by quaysider on Aug 11, 2016 19:03:18 GMT
speaking (well writing) as a middle-aged ginger puff - who's married to a younger model ... we don't take for granted the tolerance we're lucky enough to have these days ... we DONT show affection in public... we don't canoodle in public either but that's because WE were not brought up in that environment. On the odd occasion - and it feels very odd, when we're out hiking in the midle of now where, we "might" just lean on each other but that's just about it... and more often than not, its as a result of my back being knackered or my knee going out of joint - again.
we just dont fee comfortable touching in public - ... we tend to sit on separate sofas in private lol! Oddly enough, the younger generation tend to accept it and DO feel comfortable in public... I know this because recently when I turned into our estate, I saw a young couple snogging up against a wall which then became apparent was 2 boys - about 15... 1 of which, lives across the road from us.
I for one, am not offended by anyone's intolerance or discomfort - many folk accept and don't give a flying fart that we're a couple of shirt lifters but it doesn't mean they have the skills to show it or hide their (natural to them) awkardness around it... and why should they?
You only have to read about how terrible it is in Russia for "our sort" to appreciate how GOOD we've got it here!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 19:11:27 GMT
...ramming stuff down people's throats just tends to make them more stubborn. Exactly this. Holding hands, hugging etc are fine in public places. Having sex in full view of the unsuspecting public is no more than exhibitionism regardless of the sex of both parties. I reckon a lot of the problem is due to result of the even earlier generation experiencing close members of the family and friends dying in the wars. It hardened everyone up and destroyed touchy feeliness for while. Sex has been mixed up with being touchy feeliness. Sex is something to be left behind closed doors and should be consensual. |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 11, 2016 19:12:34 GMT
There's only one thing worse than being a shirt lifter, and that's being a ginger shirt lifter.
JOKE everyone!
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 11, 2016 19:20:44 GMT
I think there needs to be consideration from both sides of the coin. A generation was brought up being told it was wrong (and I don't wish to go into the ins and outs of that, it happened). It will be this generation that will be more tolerant and understanding, there just needs to be a bit of patience and respect I think. Excuse the pun, but ramming stuff down people's throats just tends to make them more stubborn. From the "earlier" generation (sounds better than "older") I tend to disapprove of overt displays of affection (especially when they have a sexual aspect) in public, hetrosexual or homosexual. So from the OP "I may have put my hand round his waist" could well have been more like hand on bottom, which (again either homo or hetero) I would have found (mildly) offensive in a public place. Yes I can go along with that, I find hetero breeders snogging passionately in public fairly repulsive. However the important point is to consider what would have happened if the couple in Sainsburys had been hetero - nothing. Mrs Offended of Tunbridge Wells would have thought "Oooh look at that young couple, so in love, how nice" as opposed to "look at those filthy queers, should be locked up or better still gassed" And in London, surely such things as benders holding hands, is quite normal |
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