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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 11:46:09 GMT
See vicarious liability 👍🍻 I doubt that applies in this case seeing as he did not ask or pay for CRT to move the boat. I thinking Tony's ownership matters not a not, the issue falls squarely at the feet of the employer responsible for the employees who were tasked with moving and securing the boat - not Tony in this case!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 12:27:17 GMT
For the record I am the no.1 insurance hater Well maybe if we had no insurance we’d have to take it into our own hands to be more careful how we drive etc! That logic fails a bit when damage or injury is done deliberately as the law prevents us from taking that into our own hands...well not unless you have lots of money it seems...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 12:32:29 GMT
Whatever the case, at some point the question of whether or not there is a valid insurance policy held for Selby Michael is bound to arise. Also, the probability of it being licenced* seems equally slim...
*Yeah, no such thing, fictitious, etc etc...gottit.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 2, 2020 13:33:53 GMT
Whatever the case, at some point the question of whether or not there is a valid insurance policy held for Selby Michael is bound to arise. Also, the probability of it being licenced* seems equally slim... *Yeah, no such thing, fictitious, etc etc...gottit. Careful what you say, this sort of post seems to cause Tony to experience bouts of uncontrollable laughter.
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 2, 2020 13:56:57 GMT
Foxy, you seem confused. It's simple - Crt moved the boat away from it's regular mooring. The boat then escaped. The time lapse is irrelevant, it was moored where CRT move it to by CRT who didn't look after it. Maybe someone with a grudge against Tony helped it on it's way. If so they shot themselves in the foot. 6 years ago, so says Peterboat. And Tony didn't go to look at his barge for all that time? 6 years? Yes, could be deliberate - pretend to send an e-mail informing of the ropes being in poor condition, then send your evil henchmen to set if free so you can turn round and say "Told you!" We will see how this goes, won't we? I usually support Tony, he's a clever chap and has a sense of humour... but I do see many pieces missing in this jigsaw... and I suspect they have been left deliberately out.
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 2, 2020 14:00:50 GMT
See vicarious liability 👍🍻 I doubt that applies in this case seeing as he did not ask or pay for CRT to move the boat. Also, if CRT knew the ropes to be 'dodgy', then sending an e-mail about it to the owner is somewhat sloppy. How about a phone call? But when did they tie the barge up - 6 years ago? Ropes weather and rot, and so on.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 15:08:33 GMT
Foxy, you seem confused. It's simple - Crt moved the boat away from it's regular mooring. The boat then escaped. The time lapse is irrelevant, it was moored where CRT move it to by CRT who didn't look after it. Maybe someone with a grudge against Tony helped it on it's way. If so they shot themselves in the foot. Really? CaRT moved it six years ago and that means they are liable for the vessel? Sounds like bullshit to me. Also, the original report here on Thunderboat stated the boat's regular mooring was above the lock. So the last time it was there, allegedly six years ago, was a detail so insignificant it wasn't worth mentioning? I had a wild thought a moment ago so crazy it couldn't possibly be true. Maybe someone with a lot of time on their hands and a grudge against CaRT helped it on its way. Only a lunatic would do it. Do we know any lunatics?
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 2, 2020 15:30:31 GMT
Foxy, you seem confused. It's simple - Crt moved the boat away from it's regular mooring. The boat then escaped. The time lapse is irrelevant, it was moored where CRT move it to by CRT who didn't look after it. Maybe someone with a grudge against Tony helped it on it's way. If so they shot themselves in the foot. I had a wild thought a moment ago so crazy it couldn't possibly be true. Maybe someone with a lot of time on their hands and a grudge against CaRT helped it on its way. Only a lunatic would do it. Do we know any lunatics? I see what you did there.
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 2, 2020 15:54:45 GMT
Foxy, you seem confused. It's simple - Crt moved the boat away from it's regular mooring. The boat then escaped. The time lapse is irrelevant, it was moored where CRT move it to by CRT who didn't look after it. Maybe someone with a grudge against Tony helped it on it's way. If so they shot themselves in the foot. Only a lunatic would do it. Do we know any lunatics? I can account for my whereabouts. When did it happen?
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 2, 2020 15:55:23 GMT
I had a wild thought a moment ago so crazy it couldn't possibly be true. Maybe someone with a lot of time on their hands and a grudge against CaRT helped it on its way. Only a lunatic would do it. Do we know any lunatics? I see what you did there. Heh.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 2, 2020 18:31:26 GMT
Perhaps if Tony Dunkley can find a minute of two of respite from bouts of uncontrollable laughter, he might care to comment on whether this movement of his boat by CRT did indeed occur six years ago?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 18:33:41 GMT
He may need to rest as rib ache at that age (81) can be quite detrimental to overall health and wellbeing.
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Post by IainS on Feb 2, 2020 21:10:47 GMT
I think you are right. I knew somebody exactly like Tony when I was in my 20's, he just lurched from one disaster to the next and every single time he just rationalised the issue away as being caused by the other party's unreasonable behaviour, and despite all his friends' best efforts to make him see how his actions had led to the inevitable consequences, he just continued to lie about situations until he had convinced himself and himself only that his lies were the truth. As a result of which he inevitably repeated the mistake instead of learning from it. (snip) Did he call himself "Boris"?
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Post by TonyDunkley on Feb 3, 2020 7:53:30 GMT
There appears to have been a radical change to what is deemed acceptable for posting on the part of the directing minds behind CWDF. At the time of the great CWDF cull I was one of the few, perhaps the only one, to be given a reason for being permanently banned from any further participation. The stated reason was my posting, and re-posting in defiance of the site owner and his mad mod's, of details of proven or provable unlawful actions on the part of C&RT in illegally taking possession of and removing lightship "Planet" from Liverpool. Since "Selby Michael" broke adrift from Hazleford on the evening of Sunday 26 January 2020 there have been several unsubstantiated references, on CWDF and elsewhere, to alleged damage caused to the visitor pontoon mooring outside Farndon Marina. To date, however, none of this internet speculation been backed up with any kind of evidence that the vessel damaged or even actually did hit the Farndon pontoon, and nor has there been any form of contact or communication from the marina proprietors. It would seem, however, that CWDF's sources are privy to information and facts denied to anyone else ! www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?/topic/104731-boat-going-boating-on-its-own-on-the-trent/page/13/" The pontoon outside Farndon marina is bit bent (looks worse in real life) due to being struck by Selby Michael."
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Post by TonyDunkley on Feb 3, 2020 8:41:42 GMT
It may have been inspired by drivel posted by the like minded half-wits who have been loading this thread with their asinine outpourings over the last few days, but one of CWDF's most outstanding and vacuous of gobshites has just outdone them all ! www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?/topic/104731-boat-going-boating-on-its-own-on-the-trent/&do=findComment&comment=2417353 "Good luck to Farndon Marina in getting any money back for the repairs to the pontoon, as well as the owners of the damaged boats at Fiskerton.
It would seem that the Selby Michael is uninsured and there is little hope of a bankrupt having the money to pay for the repairs. Will probably just end up being declared bankrupt again and leaving the people who have suffered damage to their property to pick up the tab, or their insurers more likely.
In another twist to this tale it would seem that Dunkley managed to keep hold of this "asset " during his bankruptcy hearing by claiming it to be a "tool of his trade" although since his uninsured boat went for a little wander on its own he is now adamant it is a pleasure boat, in which case he has also made fraudulent claims to the courts.
Not sure how he plans to worm his way out of that one this time."
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