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Post by themenagerieafloat on Feb 1, 2020 12:01:19 GMT
Hello, I'm wondering over from the light side to ask for some recommendations for electric heating... This seems like somewhere I'll get slightly more sane advice than Facebook!
Boat has Webasto diesel rads (enough for cabins and a token one in living area) and a Morsel squirrel (in living area) so what I'm looking for is something electric I can fit safely to the wooden panelling below gunwales in the living area and have on a low thermostat setting when on shore power. Not to make it toasty but enough to keep the filth mutts warm if they are home alone and just generally take the chill off/maybe reduce condensation a bit.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 12:27:28 GMT
Welcome to the premier boating (and utterly unrelated issues) forum on the web. Someone will be along to answer your question in a minute. This is a fun place full of great folk ... I only came here to read the meter 4 years ago and I've never left Rog
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Post by Jim on Feb 1, 2020 12:48:10 GMT
The small convector heaters can be wall mounted AFAIK. They have a timer and thermostat on some of them.
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Post by themenagerieafloat on Feb 1, 2020 13:01:40 GMT
Thank you dogless and jim Riley. Lovely to 'meet' you.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 14:57:14 GMT
Hi The infrared panel heaters are quite interesting. On the barge I have a couple of small electric rads can't quite remember what make they are but they are small long thin element radiators. Skirting rads I think they were called. Quite good actually. Quick Google image search reminded me they are 'Norel' radiators. Details here adax-solaire.co.uk/product/adax-norel-electric-thermostatic-skirting-low-profile-convection-heater-wal/ETA the ones I have are the long thin ones they have a thermostat on the end. They only come on when needed. Usually the fire keeps the boat warm but the electric is handy to be fair. Expensive to run though.
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 1, 2020 15:08:29 GMT
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Post by Jim on Feb 1, 2020 16:16:20 GMT
Get a big fridge the same size as your kitchen door'ole. Remove door from large fridge, block kitchen door'ole with large fridge, innards facing out, heat sink grid inwards. Turn on fridge. You now have a heat pump.
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 1, 2020 16:24:07 GMT
Get a big fridge the same size as your kitchen door'ole. Remove door from large fridge, block kitchen door'ole with large fridge, innards facing out, heat sink grid inwards. Turn on fridge. You now have a heat pump. I suppose - can't be bothered to think about it as is irrelevant to our lifestyle. That's one thing we like about boating, is that it's back to the simple ways. As have said, a candle in the kitchen sink overnight helps to take the chill from the kitchen, and hot water bottles placed in strategic locations. A discussion on a Finnish net site about these new electricity-generating windmills says they cost as much to produce and run as the electricity they produce so the benefit is.... ZERO. I suppose it gives some people something to do.
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Post by Jim on Feb 1, 2020 17:20:27 GMT
That just proves that there are stupid people everywhere. What evidence? Or just random cut n paste, foxystylee.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 17:40:48 GMT
I like wind turbines but being fair if you run the maths and take into account true costs and consumption of raw materials etc they actually aren't very good, technically. They might be if they were designed to last for a long time but I suspect they are designed to be rapidly replaced by the improved version.
Similar to electric cars. Overall they are not significantly better than using existing combustion engine cars. They could easily be a lot worse.
But as with so many things there is a market and people will buy them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 18:58:07 GMT
Hate to have to say it ... but I agree with naughtyfox at keeping life simple on the boat. It's what we enjoy too. If life was exactly how we live at home, I don't think we'd enjoy it so much, but each to their own. Having said that, we do have a fridge Rog
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 19:10:46 GMT
It sort of depends on the overlap between "home" and boat. One of my nicknames is "homeless", given to me by somebody who spotted my desire to live a very simple life. Obviously I can't do this with woman and kids so we have a relatively comfortable boat with a fridge but when it's just me I have no fridge, no telly, no washing machine etc just need a fire in winter and enough power to start the engines and run a phone and some led lights.
Nothing else.
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Post by lollygagger on Feb 1, 2020 19:23:02 GMT
Hello, I'm wondering over from the light side to ask for some recommendations for electric heating... This seems like somewhere I'll get slightly more sane advice than Facebook!
Boat has Webasto diesel rads (enough for cabins and a token one in living area) and a Morsel squirrel (in living area) so what I'm looking for is something electric I can fit safely to the wooden panelling below gunwales in the living area and have on a low thermostat setting when on shore power. Not to make it toasty but enough to keep the filth mutts warm if they are home alone and just generally take the chill off/maybe reduce condensation a bit.
From your link - Size H21.1, W81.5, D20cm Depth 20cm = almost 8". It's going to stick out a bit, I had a 3Kw one that was only half that depth. 500W= 1/2 unit/hour, approx 15p depending on your rate. 500w isn't much in my experience but I like to be fairly toasty.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 19:27:05 GMT
Mine sticks about 3 inches which is one of the reasons I use it.
As the bishop said to the actress.
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Post by JohnV on Feb 1, 2020 20:46:30 GMT
looking at the heater in your link, with you saying you want to mount them under the gunwales .....You may be already aware but they would need to be fitted far enough below the gunwale to allow air to circulate freely.
500 watt won't heat a big area and being convection most of the heating would be away from the ground. Magnetman's comment about infra red panel heaters might pay investigating but the ones I have seen were not cheap.
I'll be honest though, I suspect you are going to need to just try it and see.
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