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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 22, 2020 9:02:32 GMT
I've been reading about irresponsible behaviour on social media, and on the news channels. It seems that the message hasn't got home to us Brits yet. Then I witnessed the incident I described in Aldi yesterday. I've been thinking...
It seems that however much our leaders urge people to keep their distance it's not going to happen. Not unless there's a draconian complete shut down. Perhaps this is inevitable but rather than have that I think it's better if us, the people, start policing people's behaviour. The problem is that it's not our culture to do this. We're very nervous about asking people to change their behaviour. Perhaps that's because we're a violent bunch, things can escalate from almost nothing to a punch up in no time at all, quite unlike anywhere else in the world. Oh OK, maybe Australia as well. In extreme circumstances we might nervously say something along the lines of: "Excuse me, I'm sorry to bother you, but would you mind turning your music down just a touch? this is the quiet carriage"
Couple of years ago I was in India, travelling from the airport to the coast. I had my surfboard with me and a couple of bags. The train was empty, I wasn't sure where I was getting off so rather than put my bags in the overhead carriers I kept them next to me on the seat, ready to bolt off quickly if I recognised the station name. The train started filling up as it stopped at various stations. Selfishly I left my bags where they were. A woman opposite, without preamble or niceties said to me: "move your bags". I was a bit taken aback, it seemed rude, I wasn't used to such direct behaviour. When I thought about it later I realised she was right. It was me being selfish, she was policing the common good. A good person, doing the right thing.
Obviously we don't want the papers to be full of reports of fights because 'corona virus vigilantes' took exception to people's selfish behaviour but if that's what needs to happen for people to get the message, it's a price worth paying.
Somehow, Britain needs to drop this culture of over the top politeness, it holds us back, and the social rule that you don't interfere in others' business. I'm not sure how that might happen but personally, from now on, I'm going to call out selfish and irresponsible behaviour.
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Post by patty on Mar 22, 2020 9:14:25 GMT
I've been reading about irresponsible behaviour on social media, and on the news channels. It seems that the message hasn't got home to us Brits yet. Then I witnessed the incident I described in Aldi yesterday. I've been thinking... It seems that however much our leaders urge people to keep their distance it's not going to happen. Not unless there's a draconian complete shut down. Perhaps this is inevitable but rather than have that I think it's better if us, the people, start policing people's behaviour. The problem is that it's not our culture to do this. We're very nervous about asking people to change their behaviour. Perhaps that's because we're a violent bunch, things can escalate from almost nothing to a punch up in no time at all, quite unlike anywhere else in the world. Oh OK, maybe Australia as well. In extreme circumstances we might nervously say something along the lines of: "Excuse me, I'm sorry to bother you, but would you mind turning your music down just a touch? this is the quiet carriage" Couple of years ago I was in India, travelling from the airport to the coast. I had my surfboard with me and a couple of bags. The train was empty, I wasn't sure where I was getting off so rather than put my bags in the overhead carriers I kept them next to me on the seat, ready to bolt off quickly if I recognised the station name. The train started filling up as it stopped at various stations. Selfishly I left my bags where they were. A woman opposite, without preamble or niceties said to me: "move your bags". I was a bit taken aback, it seemed rude, I wasn't used to such direct behaviour. When I thought about it later I realised she was right. It was me being selfish, she was policing the common good. A good person, doing the right thing. Obviously we don't want the papers to be full of reports of fights because 'corona virus vigilantes' took exception to people's selfish behaviour but if that's what needs to happen for people to get the message, it's a price worth paying. Somehow, Britain needs to drop this culture of over the top politeness, it holds us back, and the social rule that you don't interfere in others' business. I'm not sure how that might happen but personally, from now on, I'm going to call out selfish and irresponsible behaviour. Self policing will undoubtably happen, however I think it needs to be done in a calm assertive manner..not aggressively as we have all seen what happens with aggression I'm certainly reducing the 'over the top politeness" in favour of pleasant but firm manner. Sadly I believe we will see many acts of selfish violent bullying behaviour before Coronageddon runs its course....
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 22, 2020 9:50:20 GMT
When I thought about it later I realised she was right. It was me being selfish, she was policing the common good. A good person, doing the right thing. And when she got off the train she had a shit in the street.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 22, 2020 9:51:31 GMT
from now on, I'm going to call out selfish and irresponsible behaviour.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2020 9:54:55 GMT
I felt a bit nervous taking 3 tins of sardines from the co-op this morning.
Except that I buy 3 tins of fish, either mackerel or sardines every week anyway and have not had any for the past week.
So its actually normal behaviour...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2020 9:55:11 GMT
When I thought about it later I realised she was right. It was me being selfish, she was policing the common good. A good person, doing the right thing. And when she got off the train she had a shit in the street. You just cant help ruining threads can you.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 22, 2020 10:07:28 GMT
When I thought about it later I realised she was right. It was me being selfish, she was policing the common good. A good person, doing the right thing. And when she got off the train she had a shit in the street. Aye, but at least she washed her arse properly after, using water. And the shit in the street, the 'holy' cows were on patrol for breakfast, they enjoyed it immensely.
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Post by lollygagger on Mar 22, 2020 10:08:44 GMT
Β And when she got off the train she had a shit in the street. You just cant help ruining threads can you... You are a self absorbed piece of women's genitalia. Polite enough? He's a fucking idiot. Like the 70 year old twat I just had to walk around 3 sides of a building to avoid. He's on his way to see his grandchildren, thinks the Chinese set it off so they could buy cheap shares and thought it was funny to pretend cough in my direction. He was very close to a punch in the face. What the fuck is wrong with people?
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Post by phil70 on Mar 22, 2020 10:10:16 GMT
Thing with Foxy is that he can't help himself Phil
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2020 10:12:25 GMT
Thing with Foxy is that he can't help himself Phil Perhaps the title of the thread will get through to him.
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Post by JohnV on Mar 22, 2020 10:19:11 GMT
I'm not going to hold my breath
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Post by Isambard Kingdom Brunel on Mar 22, 2020 10:25:52 GMT
Having travelled the world I know we are too polite. We have been told so on many occasions. Whilst we're apologising, saying sorry, excuse me etc. the rest of the world thinks we are pratts and decide to ignore us. But I am a polite person, was raised that way and maintained the polite attitude all my life. I don't think I can change. Which is why I find blunt crude posts so Jarring. Foxy, are you listening?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2020 10:27:35 GMT
It's interesting to consider the interactions between social distancing and social media.
I imagine facebook will make vast profits from this as advertising works better when people are agitated.
Like a dream come true.
I saw a tiny example of agro yesterday there was a queue for a chemist.
About 10 random people along the pavement.
Old woman in queue her husband waiting in car beside the queue with the grandchild in the back. He was trying to converse with his misses about something but the child was going mental in back of car so he kept having to shout at it to shut up.
I was walking past on way to co-op.
Multiply that out by countless thousands and you have a recipe for unpleasant things to happen.
Self policing in theory might be good but in practice it could get too ugly.
I think it could work in supermarkets in theory but it's very complex.
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Post by Jim on Mar 22, 2020 10:38:33 GMT
A post by a Lidl assistant on local FB, they were trying to impose rationing and were challenging the greedy at the tills, one utter twat spat on his hands and smeared all his extra goods.
Thatcher would have been proud of the greedy twats, toryism in action, look after yourself, bugger the key workers.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 22, 2020 10:43:00 GMT
A post by a Lidl assistant on local FB, they were trying to impose rationing and were challenging the greedy at the tills, one utter twat spat on his hands and smeared all his extra goods. Thatcher would have been proud of the greedy twats, toryism in action, look after yourself, bugger the key workers. What a load of bollocks. I'm a tory but if I saw someone do such a thing, I'd deck him. You need to sort your head out mate. Socialists are not morally superior, or superior in any other way to people who have different views about how society should be run. They are both opinions, beliefs, that's all. There are good and bad tories, just as there are good and bad socialists.
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