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Post by quaysider on Sept 9, 2016 18:58:15 GMT
So today I've been thinking - (it does happen)... whilst in Wickes *other diy stores are available*, I spotted an offer they have on that green board to go under laminate/wooden floors. It's about 20mm thick and is supposed to "cushion" out imperfections etc. I used it in the bungalow and it seemed ok - but not noticeably warmer than the foam stuff . Have any of you experienced boaty types used any of this stuff? link www.wickes.co.uk/Celotex-25mm-High-Performance-Insulation-Board-1200x2400mm/p/190545
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 19:06:24 GMT
So today I've been thinking - (it does happen)... whilst in Wickes *other diy stores are available*, I spotted an offer they have on that green board to go under laminate/wooden floors. It's about 20mm thick and is supposed to "cushion" out imperfections etc. I used it in the bungalow and it seemed ok - but not noticeably warmer than the foam stuff . Have any of you experienced boaty types used any of this stuff? link
If I were fitting a boat out from scratch I'd only consider something like this www.directflooring.co.uk/browse/category/SolidHardwoodFlooring.htmlProper wood feels lovely under barefoot 19mm thick means that crappy cardboard stuff is pointless
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 19:15:21 GMT
As for the celotex, I insulated my transit with it, fixed behind the ply lining, it's easy to work with. Good stuff that would be a sensible idea to use as a thermal barrier between the baseplate and your posh wooden floor.
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Post by quaysider on Sept 9, 2016 19:49:41 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 20:04:29 GMT
Good on you, that will look good. laminate flooring is about as much use as a poke in the eye. One thing to consider is how you approach your boating with a floor like that, mud and grit in boots isn't kind to floors like that. Me, I'd lock the cabin doors when working a heavily locked stretch of canal, it's too easy for one of you to nip through to the front when you should do everything from the rear of the boat.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 22:42:06 GMT
So today I've been thinking - (it does happen)... whilst in Wickes *other diy stores are available*, I spotted an offer they have on that green board to go under laminate/wooden floors. It's about 20mm thick and is supposed to "cushion" out imperfections etc. I used it in the bungalow and it seemed ok - but not noticeably warmer than the foam stuff . Have any of you experienced boaty types used any of this stuff? link www.wickes.co.uk/Celotex-25mm-High-Performance-Insulation-Board-1200x2400mm/p/190545I laid it right through the boat. Under vinyl, bamboo and carpet. I didn't lay it in the kitchen or bathroom where I have marble. The bilge is always dry, and I credit the insulation board with being the barrier that stops heat going into the bilge and causing condensation.
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Post by quaysider on Sept 10, 2016 5:18:35 GMT
That's good to know - we looked at the bamboo too .. I quite liked it but I was "told" it was a bit orangy and looked like garden canes!!! lol.
NOW the question is HOW thick dare I go? It's hard to judge how much height there is until the ceiling is lined = at the moment, it looks cavernous but I suspect it's going to come down a fair old bit.
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Post by tomsk on Sept 10, 2016 16:39:34 GMT
Kingspan or similar?
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 10, 2016 17:03:03 GMT
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Post by smileypete on Sept 10, 2016 17:04:17 GMT
Maybe 2" Celotex/Kingspan between the bearers, if space above ballast allows. 2" may be a bit overkill really but isn't much dearer than the 1".
If budget or space is really tight maybe look at the foil bubble/quilt type products.
Sometimes Ebay is a great source of insulation deals. The Green Building Forum has a lot of expertise on insulation if you'd like to research further.
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Post by quaysider on Sept 10, 2016 17:17:41 GMT
by the looks of it, they're all about the same (kingspan / celotex /recticel./ etc urethane foil faced insulation sheets all have an equal thermal value) I wonder if it's WORTH having 50mm rather than 25 mm deep?
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Post by tomsk on Sept 10, 2016 17:25:19 GMT
by the looks of it, they're all about the same (kingspan / celotex /recticel./ etc urethane foil faced insulation sheets all have an equal thermal value) I wonder if it's WORTH having 50mm rather than 25 mm deep? I doubt it unless f/t liveaboard, in which case adequate insulation/ventilation requirements MUST be given the utmost consideration.
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Post by Jim on Oct 19, 2016 16:19:48 GMT
Finished my fit out a few months back. I was about to dig out some stores recycled laminate, crap but free,when a mate turned up with 19mm oak tongue and groove flooring, out of a kitchen refit. I already had 19mm ply down so used some of the 4 or 5mm foam with space blanket on one side, between the two. It's worked a treat, though I'm not a liveaboard. Mind you a 4kw woodstove in a 35ft boat, open layout like a caravan, and it soon gets warm and toasty.
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Post by peterboat on Oct 19, 2016 19:50:31 GMT
Good insulation is always money well spent I hate that cold feel on the feet, insulation helps get rid of it
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Post by Telemachus on Oct 19, 2016 19:59:48 GMT
The only downside of underfloor insulation is the limitation of the distance between the canal bed and the bridge /tunnel roof. In other words you restrict the headroom inside the boat. Depends whether or not you are vertically challenged I suppose.
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