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Post by Jim on May 15, 2020 11:32:18 GMT
So you are telling us that if you had been eligible you would have refused it? I think you are just playing Dog in the Manger. This is being done for the common good, we all suffer to a greater or lesser degree if lots of businesses go bang. There would be greater economic turmoil. It will only cost 1 or 2 billion interest to borrow 100 billion. Cheaper than the alternative, trying to rebuild and restart closed businesses. It also demonstrates that the tories were living up to their hard earned reputation when they claimed Labour's budget plans were an impossibility. Did you see the debacle that was PMQs BTW. Poor Boris can't cope without a baying mob behind him to divert the cut and thrust of Kier's razor sharp mind. First strategy, lieπ. Second strategy, continue lieing. π PHWOAR WAFFLE WHIFF WHAFF. Who needs Jeremy? π€£ Yes interest rates are low, but that doesn't mean that the principal sum doesn't need to be repaid as well. Whatever, still cheaper than crashing and burning and then having to rebuild. Eg cost of UC for those who lose jobs etc.
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Post by Jim on May 15, 2020 11:34:00 GMT
you must be feeling a bit mellow today Jim β¦. maybe because it's your birthday ? almost a non bile political post !!! Only problem I can see with your summing up about not being able to afford Jeremy's spending plans is that, if the money had already been borrowed for his magic money tree ideas, another lot would have had to be borrowed to support during Corvid 19 β¦β¦. and we would have been twice as deep in the mire sensible fiscal policy is to not spend the maximum but save some for a rainy day β¦β¦ well it's raining rather hard and if there had been a magic money tree program, we would be already deeply indebted before we needed to spend a fortune That with hindsight though. What did you make of Bozzer's efforts at the despatch box? Even the tory rags are slating him. As for "bile", I leave that to nasty knickers. What you see as bile is truth about Boris and his mob, to leaven the sycophancy prevalent here. Unlike naughtyfox random cnp, my posts are factual, pointing out tory flaws, faults and incompetence.
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Post by bodger on May 15, 2020 12:14:06 GMT
So you are telling us that if you had been eligible you would have refused it? I think you are just playing Dog in the Manger. This is being done for the common good, we all suffer to a greater or lesser degree if lots of businesses go bang. There would be greater economic turmoil. It will only cost 1 or 2 billion interest to borrow 100 billion. Cheaper than the alternative, trying to rebuild and restart closed businesses. It also demonstrates that the tories were living up to their hard earned reputation when they claimed Labour's budget plans were an impossibility. Did you see the debacle that was PMQs BTW. Poor Boris can't cope without a baying mob behind him to divert the cut and thrust of Kier's razor sharp mind. First strategy, lieπ. Second strategy, continue lieing. π PHWOAR WAFFLE WHIFF WHAFF. Who needs Jeremy? π€£ Yes interest rates are low ........................ .............. for the moment. It took decades to repay UK debt to the US after ww2 - interest rates were in double figures for some of that time.
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Post by lollygagger on May 15, 2020 12:51:07 GMT
So you are telling us that if you had been eligible you would have refused it? I think you are just playing Dog in the Manger. This is being done for the common good, we all suffer to a greater or lesser degree if lots of businesses go bang. There would be greater economic turmoil. It will only cost 1 or 2 billion interest to borrow 100 billion. Cheaper than the alternative, trying to rebuild and restart closed businesses. It also demonstrates that the tories were living up to their hard earned reputation when they claimed Labour's budget plans were an impossibility. Did you see the debacle that was PMQs BTW. Poor Boris can't cope without a baying mob behind him to divert the cut and thrust of Kier's razor sharp mind. First strategy, lieπ. Second strategy, continue lieing. π PHWOAR WAFFLE WHIFF WHAFF. Who needs Jeremy? π€£ Yes interest rates are low, but that doesn't mean that the principal sum doesn't need to be repaid as well. They'll have it back in no time flat. Think about it. Self employed bod with Β£100. That's Β£80 because it counts as taxable income. Puts Β£80 fuel in his van - Β£50 of that tax. So they already have 70% of it back. Money must keep going round. The faster it does the more the tax paid.
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Post by naughtyfox on May 15, 2020 16:24:22 GMT
you must be feeling a bit mellow today Jim β¦. maybe because it's your birthday ? almost a non bile political post !!! Only problem I can see with your summing up about not being able to afford Jeremy's spending plans is that, if the money had already been borrowed for his magic money tree ideas, another lot would have had to be borrowed to support during Corvid 19 β¦β¦. and we would have been twice as deep in the mire sensible fiscal policy is to not spend the maximum but save some for a rainy day β¦β¦ well it's raining rather hard and if there had been a magic money tree program, we would be already deeply indebted before we needed to spend a fortune What did you make of Bozzer's efforts at the despatch box? Even the tory rags are slating him.
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Post by naughtyfox on May 15, 2020 17:00:50 GMT
Boris Johnson #StayAlert We can beat this virus together - but only if we all continue to #StayAlert and follow the rules on social distancing. "Stay Alert"? FFS! If the British people were alert they wouldn't have elected a twat like you.
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Post by JohnV on May 15, 2020 17:46:33 GMT
you must be feeling a bit mellow today Jim β¦. maybe because it's your birthday ? almost a non bile political post !!! Only problem I can see with your summing up about not being able to afford Jeremy's spending plans is that, if the money had already been borrowed for his magic money tree ideas, another lot would have had to be borrowed to support during Corvid 19 β¦β¦. and we would have been twice as deep in the mire sensible fiscal policy is to not spend the maximum but save some for a rainy day β¦β¦ well it's raining rather hard and if there had been a magic money tree program, we would be already deeply indebted before we needed to spend a fortune That with hindsight though. What did you make of Bozzer's efforts at the despatch box? Even the tory rags are slating him. As for "bile", I leave that to nasty knickers. What you see as bile is truth about Boris and his mob, to leaven the sycophancy prevalent here. Unlike naughtyfox random cnp, my posts are factual, pointing out tory flaws, faults and incompetence. actually I thought his performance was Sterling (as in the BMC Stierling ....... about which all the good that could be said, was that it had a wheel at each corner)
I'm sorry Jim, but a lot of your red posts are just Corbyista noise with very little true content
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Post by Jim on May 15, 2020 18:40:56 GMT
That with hindsight though. What did you make of Bozzer's efforts at the despatch box? Even the tory rags are slating him. As for "bile", I leave that to nasty knickers. What you see as bile is truth about Boris and his mob, to leaven the sycophancy prevalent here. Unlike naughtyfox random cnp, my posts are factual, pointing out tory flaws, faults and incompetence. actually I thought his performance was Sterling (as in the BMC Stierling ....... about which all the good that could be said, was that it had a wheel at each corner)
I'm sorry Jim, but a lot of your red posts are just Corbyista noise with very little true content
Correct. But only if I said that Boris always told the truth. π
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Post by JohnV on May 15, 2020 18:55:52 GMT
actually I thought his performance was Sterling (as in the BMC Stierling ....... about which all the good that could be said, was that it had a wheel at each corner)
I'm sorry Jim, but a lot of your red posts are just Corbyista noise with very little true content
Correct. But only if I said that Boris always told the truth. π don't be silly ..... nobody with any sense expects a politician to always tell the truth ..... it's a bonus when one does occasionally
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Post by patty on May 16, 2020 4:55:46 GMT
Correct. But only if I said that Boris always told the truth. π don't be silly ..... nobody with any sense expects a politician to always tell the truth ..... it's a bonus when one does occasionally Trouble is even when they do I don't know whether to believe them..I want to but.... Bit like couple members of my family who made a career out of lying..got to the point when anything they said I had my doubts over authenticity... I remember sitting in the headmasters office listening to son number 2's fantastical spin for what transpired to be his final day at school..... I told him he was lying, that I couldn't do it any more and that it all ended now....and no more school result... of course that only compounded problems so maybe one should just pretend to believe....
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Post by lollygagger on May 16, 2020 18:49:38 GMT
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Post by JohnV on May 17, 2020 6:23:46 GMT
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