|
Post by TonyDunkley on Jun 17, 2021 20:19:55 GMT
You need to make it clearer which 'debts' you're referring to. Are you talking about the undefined, undocumented artificially 'manufactured' so-called 'debt' - the 'debt' that nobody from C&RT is willing to define, document, itemize, or talk about - in relation to what C&RT think are reasonable charges for me to pay in return for them arranging for Criminal Boat Services' phony 'Bailiffs' to steal the boat I used to live on, . . or are you talking about the - in round figures - somewhere around Β£43,000 that C&RT reckon that Alan Roberts owes them for stealing the ex-Liverpool Bar Lightship from him in September 2016 ? Call it whatever term you prefer. And if no action is being taken over the BAR lightship issue, it should be apparent even to you that you aren't going to receive anything other than the odd paper tiger. The cover story under which Canal & River Trust attempted to bury the evidence of its pre-meditated theft of the ex-Liverpool Bar Lightvessel "Planet", in Canning Half-Tide Dock, Liverpool, on the morning of 19 September 2016, has come unravelled a bit more over the last few days.
Alan Roberts, the owner of the ex-Lightvessel "Planet", currently held illegally in the possession of the man that the C&RT lied about having sold the ship to back in April 2017, a Mr S. Beacham of Sharpness Shipyard & Drydock Ltd at Sharpness Dock in Gloucestershire, has been contacted by a prospective buyer of the ship who, in the belief that S. Beacham was the rightful owner, had approached him with a view to buying the ship to convert into a floating art gallery and living quarters. Negotiations between this prospective buyer and Beacham came to a dead stop when Beacham was unable, or unwilling - probably both - to produce any form of sales or proof of ownership documentation to establish his bona fides as the seller of the ship, and, believe it or not, actually advised the prospective buyer to verify any questions as to 'good title' to the ship and how it came to be in his possession, . . on this internet forum ! Those who have followed the saga of the Liverpool Lightship since its unlawful seizure, by some night club bouncers and football match stewards, acting on the explicit instructions of the C&RT, impersonating authorized Bailiffs and pretending to be 'enforcing' a "High Court Warrant", in Liverpool on 19 September 2016, will recall that C&RT announced that it had sold "Planet" to Beacham for Β£12,500 in early 2017, . . and they will no doubt also recall that the ship's rightful owner, Alan Roberts, was promised a copy of the C&RT Bill of Sale for the ship at around the same time. To this day, no copy Bill of Sale has ever been produced or forwarded to Alan Roberts by Beacham, . . and by coincidence we have learned today that a similar written enquiry to Beacham in March of this year from the National Historic Ships Register [NHSR] on behalf of another prospective buyer for "Planet" has produced exactly the same result, . . no copy Bill of Sale, and no other form of supporting paperwork. A similar enquiry by NHSR, on behalf of the same prospective buyer made just prior to them (NHSR) contacting Beacham in March this year, was made to the C&RT, who had been on the NHSR records as the rightful owner of LV23 ( note; NOT "Planet") since January 2017 when it had declared itself as such, and elicited the somewhat vague reply from the Trust that "as far as it was aware" the "current owner" of "Planet" was Sharpness Shipyard. Again, no supporting documentation of any sort was provided to NHSR by the C&RT. So, there we have it, . . the only party who is willing to, or can, produce a valid Bill of Sale and supporting certification for "Planet" is the man that the C&RT stole it from on 19 September 2016. On the other hand, the totally devoid of documentation Mr Beacham, and his equally documentation free co-conspirators from C&RT and their agents, Commercial Boat Services, can now look forward to having some more rather awkward questions to answer, . . in addition to the ones about the bogus 'Bailiffs' and the non-existent 'High Court Warrant' they claimed to be 'enforcing' on the day the ship was seized (stolen) !
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2021 20:24:16 GMT
Call it whatever term you prefer. And if no action is being taken over the BAR lightship issue, it should be apparent even to you that you aren't going to receive anything other than the odd paper tiger. The cover story under which Canal & River Trust attempted to bury the evidence of its pre-meditated theft of the ex-Liverpool Bar Lightvessel "Planet", in Canning Half-Tide Dock, Liverpool, on the morning of 19 September 2016, has come unravelled a bit more over the last few days.
Alan Roberts, the owner of the ex-Lightvessel "Planet", currently held illegally in the possession of the man that the C&RT lied about having sold the ship to back in April 2017, a Mr S. Beacham of Sharpness Shipyard & Drydock Ltd at Sharpness Dock in Gloucestershire, has been contacted by a prospective buyer of the ship who, in the belief that S. Beacham was the rightful owner, had approached him with a view to buying the ship to convert into a floating art gallery and living quarters. Negotiations between this prospective buyer and Beacham came to a dead stop when Beacham was unable, or unwilling - probably both - to produce any form of sales or proof of ownership documentation to establish his bona fides as the seller of the ship, and, believe it or not, actually advised the prospective buyer to verify any questions as to 'good title' to the ship and how it came to be in his possession, . . on this internet forum ! Those who have followed the saga of the Liverpool Lightship since its unlawful seizure, by some night club bouncers and football match stewards, acting on the explicit instructions of the C&RT, impersonating authorized Bailiffs and pretending to be 'enforcing' a "High Court Warrant", in Liverpool on 19 September 2016, will recall that C&RT announced that it had sold "Planet" to Beacham for Β£12,500 in early 2017, . . and they will no doubt also recall that the ship's rightful owner, Alan Roberts, was promised a copy of the C&RT Bill of Sale for the ship at around the same time. To this day, no copy Bill of Sale has ever been produced or forwarded to Alan Roberts by Beacham, . . and by coincidence we have learned today that a similar written enquiry to Beacham in March of this year from the National Historic Ships Register [NHSR] on behalf of another prospective buyer for "Planet" has produced exactly the same result, . . no copy Bill of Sale, and no other form of supporting paperwork. A similar enquiry by NHSR, on behalf of the same prospective buyer made just prior to them (NHSR) contacting Beacham in March this year, was made to the C&RT, who had been on the NHSR records as the rightful owner of LV23 ( note; NOT "Planet") since January 2017 when it had declared itself as such, and elicited the somewhat vague reply from the Trust that "as far as it was aware" the "current owner" of "Planet" was Sharpness Shipyard. Again, no supporting documentation of any sort was provided to NHSR by the C&RT. So, there we have it, . . the only party who is willing to, or can, produce a valid Bill of Sale and supporting certification for "Planet" is the man that the C&RT stole it from on 19 September 2016. On the other hand, the totally devoid of documentation Mr Beacham, and his equally documentation free co-conspirators from C&RT and their agents, Commercial Boat Services, can now look forward to having some more rather awkward questions to answer, . . in addition to the ones about the bogus 'Bailiffs' and the non-existent 'High Court Warrant' they claimed to be 'enforcing' on the day the ship was seized (stolen) ! You're worse than Ross, at least he finds new stuff to post.
|
|
|
Post by TonyDunkley on Jun 18, 2021 7:43:11 GMT
I have to question the motives behind changing the title of this thread within mere days of the topic becoming very much alive again as a result of information received with regard to C&RT's fraudulent registration of itself as the owner of "Planet" in January 2017, and further information from disappointed, and now rather angry, prospective buyers concerning the latest bungled attempts by one of C&RT's appointed disposers of illegally acquired vessels and Goods, Sharpness Shipyard, to sell Alan Roberts' stolen ship.
Although by no means essential to the process of ensuring that "Planet" is eventually returned to its rightful owner, this forum, and in particular this thread, is a useful tool for exposing and publicizing the identities of the individuals and the organizations involved in the carefully planned disguised theft of "Planet" on 19 September 2016, and the seriousness and extent of their wrongdoings.
Either the thread title reverts back to the original, and remains as such, or there is a new and appropriately titled thread to replace it.
|
|
|
Post by Andyberg on Jun 18, 2021 7:49:43 GMT
Either the thread title reverts back to the original, and remains as such, or there is a new and appropriately titled thread to replace it. Go ahead old boy, its an open forum to post as and what you wish!π
|
|
|
Post by TonyDunkley on Jun 18, 2021 8:29:28 GMT
As 'andyberg' is the creator of this thread he can change the title as is his whim. And so he has done. I'm not sure that 'bigred's comments have enhanced the seriousness of the issue at hand. Well, . . I'm absolutely sure that all the half-baked crap bigred dumped here on TB yesterday WON'T have enhanced anything, . . and would have been seen as a very welcome easing of pressure by both C&RT and one of its purveyors of stolen vessels and Goods, . . Sharpness Shipyard & Drydock Ltd's very own 'Mr Foul-up', Steve Beacham. As for andyberg, as you say, he started the "Bar Lightship" thread, so it's entirely up to him if he wants to play childish games with it, . . and see it follow kris's thread with the - ". . . allegedly"- nonsense into cyber obscurity.
|
|
|
Post by thebfg on Jun 18, 2021 13:00:35 GMT
The cover story under which Canal & River Trust attempted to bury the evidence of its pre-meditated theft of the ex-Liverpool Bar Lightvessel "Planet", in Canning Half-Tide Dock, Liverpool, on the morning of 19 September 2016, has come unravelled a bit more over the last few days.
Alan Roberts, the owner of the ex-Lightvessel "Planet", currently held illegally in the possession of the man that the C&RT lied about having sold the ship to back in April 2017, a Mr S. Beacham of Sharpness Shipyard & Drydock Ltd at Sharpness Dock in Gloucestershire, has been contacted by a prospective buyer of the ship who, in the belief that S. Beacham was the rightful owner, had approached him with a view to buying the ship to convert into a floating art gallery and living quarters. Negotiations between this prospective buyer and Beacham came to a dead stop when Beacham was unable, or unwilling - probably both - to produce any form of sales or proof of ownership documentation to establish his bona fides as the seller of the ship, and, believe it or not, actually advised the prospective buyer to verify any questions as to 'good title' to the ship and how it came to be in his possession, . . on this internet forum ! Those who have followed the saga of the Liverpool Lightship since its unlawful seizure, by some night club bouncers and football match stewards, acting on the explicit instructions of the C&RT, impersonating authorized Bailiffs and pretending to be 'enforcing' a "High Court Warrant", in Liverpool on 19 September 2016, will recall that C&RT announced that it had sold "Planet" to Beacham for Β£12,500 in early 2017, . . and they will no doubt also recall that the ship's rightful owner, Alan Roberts, was promised a copy of the C&RT Bill of Sale for the ship at around the same time. To this day, no copy Bill of Sale has ever been produced or forwarded to Alan Roberts by Beacham, . . and by coincidence we have learned today that a similar written enquiry to Beacham in March of this year from the National Historic Ships Register [NHSR] on behalf of another prospective buyer for "Planet" has produced exactly the same result, . . no copy Bill of Sale, and no other form of supporting paperwork. A similar enquiry by NHSR, on behalf of the same prospective buyer made just prior to them (NHSR) contacting Beacham in March this year, was made to the C&RT, who had been on the NHSR records as the rightful owner of LV23 ( note; NOT "Planet") since January 2017 when it had declared itself as such, and elicited the somewhat vague reply from the Trust that "as far as it was aware" the "current owner" of "Planet" was Sharpness Shipyard. Again, no supporting documentation of any sort was provided to NHSR by the C&RT. So, there we have it, . . the only party who is willing to, or can, produce a valid Bill of Sale and supporting certification for "Planet" is the man that the C&RT stole it from on 19 September 2016. On the other hand, the totally devoid of documentation Mr Beacham, and his equally documentation free co-conspirators from C&RT and their agents, Commercial Boat Services, can now look forward to having some more rather awkward questions to answer, . . in addition to the ones about the bogus 'Bailiffs' and the non-existent 'High Court Warrant' they claimed to be 'enforcing' on the day the ship was seized (stolen) ! You're worse than Ross, at least he finds new stuff to post. So Ross has lost his undisputed copy and paste crown, go Tony.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2021 13:13:49 GMT
Bigred loves the Salmon!
|
|
|
Post by Jim on Jun 18, 2021 13:41:36 GMT
Bigred loves the Salmon! Β That Bear has some knuckles. Is it big red in the cozzy?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2021 15:11:30 GMT
|
|
|
Post by Jim on Jun 18, 2021 15:30:17 GMT
|
|
|
Post by Andyberg on Jun 20, 2021 18:14:31 GMT
Your jokes on this thread really are unbear-able Jim!π»
|
|
|
Post by Jim on Jun 20, 2021 18:17:15 GMT
Your jokes on this thread really are unbear-able Jim!π» Should I paws for a bit? Don't want to make you grizzly.
|
|
|
Post by Andyberg on Aug 26, 2021 20:51:49 GMT
Been a good few months now since TBβs resident βbear knuckle fighterβ enlisted a new βshit-hot & enthusiastic solicitorβ & together with Dunkers in his corner as cut-man, decided to take on the mighty CRT with the evil Mr Beacham seeming to be holding all the cards after ignoring Dunkers latest ultimatum, there appears to be no new news forthcoming? When is Planet returning? π
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2021 21:02:47 GMT
Wow , 2016 you started this thread ... perhaps you could recap on the progress so far ... you know like tv programmes.
Rog
|
|
|
Post by Andyberg on Aug 26, 2021 21:09:11 GMT
Think this covers it! π₯²
|
|