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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 21, 2022 11:03:26 GMT
If you go to Google Maps satellite view, is Planet still parked in Sharpness docks?
Perhaps it could be used as accommodation for the cold 'n' homeless this winter?
Or filled with illegal immigrants and putt-putted over to France to return them?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2022 11:06:10 GMT
There is no propulsion engine in lightships.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Sept 21, 2022 11:18:24 GMT
WHY, . . after all this time, . . has NOTHING been done with the ship ? Legal matters are often subject to time limits. It could just be a waiting game after which the vessel will be scrapped or have a recorded deconstruction. Rubbish, . . the supposed 'legal process' that C&RT supposedly went through with LV23 "Planet" was over and done with long ago, . . when the ship was supposedly sold to S. Beacham, the proprietor of Sharpness Shipyard and Drydock, . . who has been unable, or unwilling, to produce any form of proof of ownership documentation to any interested party ever since, . . ranging from many prospective buyers, to the National Maritime Museum's Register of Historic Ships.
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Post by kris on Sept 21, 2022 11:22:19 GMT
So when are you going to spring your trap Tony? and return planet to its rightful owner. I mean your the person offering him legal advice all these years, you must have a strategy?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2022 11:51:04 GMT
Legal matters are often subject to time limits. It could just be a waiting game after which the vessel will be scrapped or have a recorded deconstruction. Rubbish, . . the supposed 'legal process' that C&RT supposedly went through with LV23 "Planet" was over and done with long ago, . . when the ship was supposedly sold to S. Beacham, the proprietor of Sharpness Shipyard and Drydock, . . who has been unable, or unwilling, to produce any form of proof of ownership documentation to any interested party ever since, . . ranging from many prospective buyers, to the National Maritime Museum's Register of Historic Ships. Do you accept that there are time limits on legal matters? I was referring to the possibility of someone putting in a claim against CRT, not the process they carried out. Here is a quick run-down from a google using non law trained lay person. www.inbrief.co.uk/claim-preparations/civil-claim-limitation-periods/#:~:text=The%20relevant%20limitation%20periods%20for%20different%20kinds%20of,in%20relation%20to%20awards%20in%20arbitration%3A%206%20years -----
What is the limitation period for different kinds of claim?
The relevant limitation periods for different kinds of claim as set out in the Limitation Act 1980:
Claims in relation to a contract: 6 years
Claims in relation to awards in arbitration: 6 years
Claims in relation to debt arising under statute: 6 years
Claims in relation to personal injury: 3 years
Claims in relation to negligence: 6 years
Claims in relation to recovery of land: 12 years
Claims in relation to breach of trust: 6 years
Claims in relation to tort: 6 years
Claims in relation to defamation and malicious falsehood: 1 year
These limitation periods are subject to some exceptions. For instance, in personal injury cases involving a child, the limitation period does not start to run until the child reaches the age of 18; and a person under a mental disability may have longer to bring a claim in some cases.
The above list is not a complete list of the limitation periods under the Limitations Act 1980. In some cases, a claim could come under more than one of these categories. If you need to know the limitation period for a specific claim you should seek specialist legal advice.
When will the limitation period commence?
The limitation period will start to run at the time that the cause of action arises, ie. from the earliest time that the legal proceedings could first have been brought. This means that every fact which is required to commence an action must be in existence before the limitation period will start to run. In some cases, this may be some time β even years β after the event in question because an individual may not know they have a potential legal claim until certain issues (such as a medical condition) come to light.
For instance, in a breach of contract claim the limitation period will start to run from the date of the alleged breach by the defendant. This would apply regardless of how long ago the contract was entered into. The claim for breach of contract must then be brought within 6 years of the date the breach occurred. In a personal injury claim, a claimant may develop a serious lung condition 10 years after working in a factory. In this case, the claimant has three years from the date of knowledge that the illness was caused by their working conditions.
Situation where certain facts have been concealed from the claimant
In some cases, facts in relation to the claim may have been concealed from the claimant by the defendant. In these circumstance, the limitation period will only commence when the claimant becomes aware of these relevant facts, or the date that he or she should have become aware of them.
Does the Limitation Act 1980 only apply to civil claims?
The Limitation Act 1980 only applies to civil claims. In the case of criminal acts, there are no statutory limits on the prosecution of crimes in the UK except for βsummaryβ offences (offences tried in the magistratesβ court). In these cases, criminal proceedings must be brought within 6 months.
----- Is this all just some made up nonsense?
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Post by Jim on Sept 21, 2022 12:23:24 GMT
Hmm, a bit late to take action over some of the supposed nasty words on here too "Claims in relation to defamation and malicious falsehood: 1 year"
Whatever happened to the old adage, sticks and stones...
There may have been time if the efforts spent being grumpy on t'internet had been put to some good use.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 21, 2022 12:32:14 GMT
Who is paying the parking fees for Planet? Is the Inland Revenue aware of these?
What is 'Big Red' the 'bear-knuckle fighter' doing about getting his ship back? Why doesn't he nip along to Sharpness to have it out with Steve Beacham?
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Post by twerp2 (Asleep) on Sept 21, 2022 13:14:08 GMT
Because they are handing it back to the bear knuckle fighter, with free mooring for life?
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Sept 21, 2022 13:23:19 GMT
Rubbish, . . the supposed 'legal process' that C&RT supposedly went through with LV23 "Planet" was over and done with long ago, . . when the ship was supposedly sold to S. Beacham, the proprietor of Sharpness Shipyard and Drydock, . . who has been unable, or unwilling, to produce any form of proof of ownership documentation to any interested party ever since, . . ranging from many prospective buyers, to the National Maritime Museum's Register of Historic Ships. Do you accept that there are time limits on legal matters? I was referring to the possibility of someone putting in a claim against CRT, not the process they carried out. Of course we know there are time limits on bringing SOME actions. As for the so-called 'process' C&RT supposedly went through with in relation to LV23 "Planet", . . we also know that apart from the time limit for a civil action in tort (conversion and trespass to goods) against C&RT, . . NONE of the applicable limits for civil actions against an alternative party - and a MUCH easier, better and therefore preferable target - have yet been reached. Criminal actions - as opposed to civil - are NOT, of course, subject to ANY time limits at all.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2022 13:28:02 GMT
Thats all made up rubbish. Sorry.
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Post by thebfg on Sept 21, 2022 14:27:45 GMT
The ThunderboatΒ 'Brains Trust' speaks.Β Β How fortunate the forum's readers and followers are, . . to have the collective wisdom of some of the most stupid people on the face of the Earth available to them via these pages. Of course, . . anyone with even the tiniest glimmer of any sort of intelligence or wit would be asking -- WHY, . . after all this time, . . HAS NOTHING been done with the ship ? People have been asking for 6 years for update at on what is happening. Of no one wants to share why would anyone care?
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Sept 21, 2022 16:09:36 GMT
The Thunderboat 'Brains Trust' speaks. How fortunate the forum's readers and followers are, . . to have the collective wisdom of some of the most stupid people on the face of the Earth available to them via these pages. Of course, . . anyone with even the tiniest glimmer of any sort of intelligence or wit would be asking -- WHY, . . after all this time, . . HAS NOTHING been done with the ship ? People have been asking for 6 years for update at on what is happening. Of no one wants to share why would anyone care? I don't understand your question, . . or the point you're making. I replied to an idiotic post by a notably stupid forum member, . . and some equally idiotic responses from other equally stupid forum members, . . by pointing out that asking the question -- "WHY, . . after all this time, . . HAS NOTHING been done with the ship ?" -- would be a rather more intelligent and productive thing to do.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2022 16:15:58 GMT
Nothing has been done because the vessel is "in limbo" legally and nothing can therefore happen other than someone with an interest in the vessel issuing proceedings.
Once the allowed time for doing this has passed then whoever is in possession of the vessel will be able to dispose of it as they see fit.
It seems rather obvious.
By the way the National Maritime Museum do not operate a register of historic ships. The National Register of Historic Ships is registered in Greenwich but is not affiliated with the Museum.
HTH.
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Post by Gone on Sept 21, 2022 17:21:11 GMT
I saw it yesterday, it is still moored in Sharpness, next to a windowless rusting shell.
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Post by Jim on Sept 21, 2022 17:28:35 GMT
I saw it yesterday, it is still moored in Sharpness, next to a windowless rusting shell. Not the Stunned Kingfisher Shirley? Isn't that in a field in Cheshire or has it been crushed, Shame it didn't have a bsc, might have been worth summat.
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