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Post by lampiniafloat on Oct 4, 2020 9:34:25 GMT
Personal insults aside ... to wish for the death of another person is rather harsh. No matter what kind of unpleasant buffoon 'the Donald' is there are very much worse individuals in the world ... and there are good people who are sadly dieing ... until we have the power to grant life, perhaps we shouldn't be wishing for death for others Rog I hear what you’re saying - I really do! But I really see it like - I’d have to actually kill Hitler if I appeared in 1938 with a gun in the same room as him. How many lives would have been saved? I’m not someone who would wish death on someone lightly - Trump and Adolf Hitler qualify I’m afraid.
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Post by lollygagger on Oct 4, 2020 10:14:11 GMT
Perhaps what is different about Trump is that he's so shamelessly and arrogantly crooked rather than totally sneaky. This is part of his appeal. He takes the piss out of the carefully worded untruths of the past by cutting to the chase and flamboyantly lying.
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Post by Jim on Oct 4, 2020 10:16:35 GMT
Perhaps what is different about Trump is that he's so shamelessly and arrogantly crooked rather than totally sneaky. This is part of his appeal. He takes the piss out of the carefully worded untruths of the past by cutting to the chase and flamboyantly lying. And Boris seems to consider him a mentor.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 10:28:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 10:33:36 GMT
Its interesting to contemplate what may have occurred (or not) had Adolf not survived. Here's a few:
The atomic bomb not completed until much later in the century. The Great Depression extends well into the late 1940s or beyond. The Japanese war against China is successful. The micro-technology revolution takes several decades more to occur. The space race does not occur. The state of Israel is not created.
War - what is it good for? Well, stimulating technological innovation and economic growth actually. Although these things may not turn out to be a net good...
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Post by lampiniafloat on Oct 4, 2020 10:37:31 GMT
Its interesting to contemplate what may have occurred (or not) had Adolf not survived. Here's a few: The atomic bomb not completed until much later in the century. The Great Depression extends well into the late 1940s or beyond. The Japanese war against China is successful. The micro-technology revolution takes several decades more to occur. The space race does not occur. The state of Israel is not created. War - what is it good for? Well, stimulating technological innovation and economic growth actually. Although these things may not turn out to be a net good... What ifs eh? 6 million Jews, gypsies, gays... That’s the what DIDS..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 11:00:53 GMT
Sure, so perhaps global population would be wildly in excess of current totals. I'm not saying things would be better or worse, just different. But the perhaps most probable thing had Hitler died is that someone else would have stepped up. I expect the Buddhists have a lot to say about this sort of thing.
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 4, 2020 11:08:22 GMT
And if the Earl of Bridgewater wasn't interested in increasing his profits by floating his coals to Manchester but, let's say, more into wearing frilly dresses, there'd be no canals.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 11:08:51 GMT
Personal insults aside ... to wish for the death of another person is rather harsh. No matter what kind of unpleasant buffoon 'the Donald' is there are very much worse individuals in the world ... and there are good people who are sadly dieing ... until we have the power to grant life, perhaps we shouldn't be wishing for death for others Rog I hear what you’re saying - I really do! But I really see it like - I’d have to actually kill Hitler if I appeared in 1938 with a gun in the same room as him. How many lives would have been saved? I’m not someone who would wish death on someone lightly - Trump and Adolf Hitler qualify I’m afraid. Not seen you around here for a while lampiniafloat ... good to see you and hope all''s well Rog
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 4, 2020 11:11:28 GMT
"Its interesting to contemplate what may have occurred (or not) had Adolf not survived." - eh?
"That’s the what DIDS.." - eh?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 11:25:06 GMT
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Post by lampiniafloat on Oct 4, 2020 12:02:26 GMT
I hear what you’re saying - I really do! But I really see it like - I’d have to actually kill Hitler if I appeared in 1938 with a gun in the same room as him. How many lives would have been saved? I’m not someone who would wish death on someone lightly - Trump and Adolf Hitler qualify I’m afraid. Not seen you around here for a while lampiniafloat ... good to see you and hope all''s well Rog Thanks lovey! Well we’re still here and still floating! Not had a brilliant time of it for many reasons (not boat related - thankfully! Mary Anne has been awesome. ) But (probably to my own detriment) I’m the last person to ask for help or blah my problems to you lot - or anyone! But still here and floating! 😁 Trust me to get all philosophical on my 1st post in for eva..
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Post by Mr Stabby on Oct 4, 2020 12:18:58 GMT
Personal insults aside ... to wish for the death of another person is rather harsh. No matter what kind of unpleasant buffoon 'the Donald' is there are very much worse individuals in the world ... and there are good people who are sadly dieing ... until we have the power to grant life, perhaps we shouldn't be wishing for death for others Rog I hear what you’re saying - I really do! But I really see it like - I’d have to actually kill Hitler if I appeared in 1938 with a gun in the same room as him. How many lives would have been saved? I’m not someone who would wish death on someone lightly - Trump and Adolf Hitler qualify I’m afraid. I really don't think the two are comparable to be honest. Trump may be boorish and hold views offensive to minorities but it's really a bit insulting to Holocaust victims to suggest that these faults are the equal of gassing six million Jews. As pointed out earlier, Trump appears to be less warmongering that most of his predecessors and so if anything has caused lives to be saved, not lost.
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Post by lampiniafloat on Oct 4, 2020 13:35:30 GMT
I hear what you’re saying - I really do! But I really see it like - I’d have to actually kill Hitler if I appeared in 1938 with a gun in the same room as him. How many lives would have been saved? I’m not someone who would wish death on someone lightly - Trump and Adolf Hitler qualify I’m afraid. I really don't think the two are comparable to be honest. Trump may be boorish and hold views offensive to minorities but it's really a bit insulting to Holocaust victims to suggest that these faults are the equal of gassing six million Jews. As pointed out earlier, Trump appears to be less warmongering that most of his predecessors and so if anything has caused lives to be saved, not lost. So many lives lost due to this orange clown’s lies though.. and lives lost to Covid are just the obvious ones.. health policies - lives lost. Economic policies - lives lost. And don’t forget those bounties on US military lives.. And that’s just the ones we know about. If only it were just about his boorishness and his “pussy grabbing” ways, if only!
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Post by Mr Stabby on Oct 4, 2020 13:50:16 GMT
I really don't think the two are comparable to be honest. Trump may be boorish and hold views offensive to minorities but it's really a bit insulting to Holocaust victims to suggest that these faults are the equal of gassing six million Jews. As pointed out earlier, Trump appears to be less warmongering that most of his predecessors and so if anything has caused lives to be saved, not lost. So many lives lost due to this orange clown’s lies though.. and lives lost to Covid are just the obvious ones.. health policies - lives lost. Economic policies - lives lost. And don’t forget those bounties on US military lives.. I'm led to believe that before Covid, his economic policies had created four million jobs, and median household income in the US was the highest it had ever been. As for Covid itself, well that is a virus and not of Trump's creation. As a novel coronavirus there is no proven way of dealing with it, and policies have varied wildly around the globe. Not until it has run its course can we say which approach proved to be the best.
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