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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 5, 2021 7:22:04 GMT
Mandatory Vaccinations, that's a Conspiracy Theory surely? "Health Secretary Sajid Javid plans to make vaccines a condition of employment for all NHS workers" This is just the start. Once established within the NHS, the principle will be extended. Governments always 'sound out' the population by introducing new measures in small areas and then, if there aren't riots, extend them to all. Government are lucky in this case, they will have the media, woke ultra cautious left wing loonies, and others, backing them all the way.
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Post by Jim on Sept 5, 2021 8:22:35 GMT
Mandatory Vaccinations, that's a Conspiracy Theory surely? "Health Secretary Sajid Javid plans to make vaccines a condition of employment for all NHS workers" This is just the start. Once established within the NHS, the principle will be extended. Governments always 'sound out' the population by introducing new measures in small areas and then, if there aren't riots, extend them to all. Government are lucky in this case, they will have the media, woke ultra cautious left wing loonies, and others, backing them all the way. Leading the charge for the run on Tinfoil, the pair of you? You must both post pics of the resulting matching hat and suit. Kevlar backed tinfoil is needleproof.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2021 16:39:42 GMT
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Post by Jim on Sept 5, 2021 17:51:45 GMT
well yes but it hardly takes the claimed skill and foresight. I predict the sun will rise in the morning. It's a conspiracy I tell you. We are all doomed.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2021 17:57:09 GMT
I think the sun rising is ok. It's when it stops doing so that we are doomed.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 5, 2021 18:15:11 GMT
well yes but it hardly takes the claimed skill and foresight. I predict the sun will rise in the morning. It's a conspiracy I tell you. We are all doomed. Didn't a number of posters, yourself included, rubbish Foxy's prediction that vaccine passports would be required in the future?
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Post by JohnV on Sept 5, 2021 18:41:57 GMT
well yes but it hardly takes the claimed skill and foresight. I predict the sun will rise in the morning. It's a conspiracy I tell you. We are all doomed. Didn't a number of posters, yourself included, rubbish Foxy's prediction that vaccine passports would be required in the future? I certainly said that I thought it unlikely ...... and it still might be as there is a lot of political opposition some from surprising sources.
If it does happen I will be against it, I have had two jabs, my risk of serious illness or death from Covid is now very low and if I do catch it then it is believed by researchers that will boost my resistance to catching even further and it is believed it will also further increase my resistance to any possible new strains. ***
If that is correct then the people at highest risk are the unvaccinated and a large proportion of them probably have a level of immunity due to having alredy had covid (it's estimated that 95% of the adult population have antibodies against Covid 19 either from vaccination or previous infection, if they have been vaccinated as well they will have very high levels of antibodies ....... and if they haven't had it and haven't been vaccinated having been offered it and turned it down ................. no comment
*** the research results are not in for that way round but if someone has had Covid and is then vaccinated their resistance increases much further (to a very high level)
The research teams believe that the converse is true but there hasn't been sufficient time for research results to be gathered. It also is believed that this combined resistance will protect much better against present variants and in all probability against future variants as the natural resistance from catching Covid does not just react to the spike protein (as do the MRNA) but to many of the proteins, increasing the odds
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Post by Jim on Sept 5, 2021 18:53:57 GMT
well yes but it hardly takes the claimed skill and foresight. I predict the sun will rise in the morning. It's a conspiracy I tell you. We are all doomed. Didn't a number of posters, yourself included, rubbish Foxy's prediction that vaccine passports would be required in the future? No, I responded as I just did. I rubbished his post because it was hardly a prediction, it's obvious. Anyway it's not really a conspiracy to want to save lives. The conspiracy would be disseminating nonsense to stop people having the jab and therefore being at risk. A fine example of the twisted logic of the febrile brane of the fox.
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Post by Trina on Sept 5, 2021 18:59:21 GMT
I would say that the passports are obvious for certain circumstances.Still don't think I'll need one to pop to my local,fave Cypriot restaurant or to the supermarket.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2021 19:38:01 GMT
Well I sincerely hope they do not become a standard thing for going to the shops. That would be extremely rude.
I've not had covid as far as I know although there is every chance I am an asymptomatic* granny killer. Also not had any vaccines or any tests and will never have either of these.
I feel a little wary about the idea of a massively dangerous killer disease showing zero symptoms in the vast majority of cases.
It seems like the whole "deadly killer virus" thing has been over egged somewhat.
Clever bit of work here. You have to engage people to a level where they think they understand. Blind them with science and they can't see. Work on their limited understanding and you get the job done. Elon Musk is brilliant at doing this. A genius.
Oh well I guess we do what we do. After all it is impossible to do what you don't do. The only thing you can do is what you do.
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Post by JohnV on Sept 8, 2021 18:44:10 GMT
Didn't a number of posters, yourself included, rubbish Foxy's prediction that vaccine passports would be required in the future? A lot of people here claimed that my 'conspiracy theories' were tin-foil-hatter territory ... yet now that they have indeed become true, the very same people now say "Ah, yes, it was obvious, we knew that was going to happen." Jim and John have had their 'jabs' and believe they are safe from the virus. And are eagerly waiting for their third jab. Almost as if jabs 1 and 2 weren't 'vaccines'! I think by now it's obvious that anyone who has rushed off for the experimental concoctions is now looking rather foolish. You've been conned but can't admit it. Keep the faith! 'Covid' is more of a cult for the brainwashed - nope, still not stepping over the dead bodies here, no one wheezing in the shops here, where is this deadly and highly contagious virus? The answer is "in your minds". There's now a 4th jab being rolled out - the quicker you get your third one, the quicker you can have the fourth! The fact is, that if you had to pay for these 'vaccines' you'd also be classed as 'vaccine hesitant'. And now, back to 'The New Normal': Totally incorrect, unlike you I understand odds and the chances of infection and the chances of being infected vaccinated or not ...... stop misquoting me and telling me what I believe
Something that many people have said to you over the last couple of years
If you read what I actually post as opposed to what you think I should be posting then you would have noticed very recently I was suggesting that I thought a third vaccination was not a good idea apart from those who are particularly at risk.
The disease has now become virtually endemic much like Flu. It is now believed everybody will sooner or later catch it ...... those who are vaccinated will be very unlikely to become seriously ill (unless they are in one of the at risk groups with lowered immunity) Those who are vaccinated will generally have only light or no sympltoms and will then have an even higher level of immunity ....... as for the silly buggers who refused it ........ well that balls in play.
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Post by ianali on Sept 8, 2021 21:08:26 GMT
A lot of people here claimed that my 'conspiracy theories' were tin-foil-hatter territory ... yet now that they have indeed become true, the very same people now say "Ah, yes, it was obvious, we knew that was going to happen." Jim and John have had their 'jabs' and believe they are safe from the virus. And are eagerly waiting for their third jab. Almost as if jabs 1 and 2 weren't 'vaccines'! I think by now it's obvious that anyone who has rushed off for the experimental concoctions is now looking rather foolish. You've been conned but can't admit it. Keep the faith! 'Covid' is more of a cult for the brainwashed - nope, still not stepping over the dead bodies here, no one wheezing in the shops here, where is this deadly and highly contagious virus? The answer is "in your minds". There's now a 4th jab being rolled out - the quicker you get your third one, the quicker you can have the fourth! The fact is, that if you had to pay for these 'vaccines' you'd also be classed as 'vaccine hesitant'. And now, back to 'The New Normal': Totally incorrect, unlike you I understand odds and the chances of infection and the chances of being infected vaccinated or not ...... stop misquoting me and telling me what I believe
Something that many people have said to you over the last couple of years
If you read what I actually post as opposed to what you think I should be posting then you would have noticed very recently I was suggesting that I thought a third vaccination was not a good idea apart from those who are particularly at risk.
The disease has now become virtually endemic much like Flu. It is now believed everybody will sooner or later catch it ...... those who are vaccinated will be very unlikely to become seriously ill (unless they are in one of the at risk groups with lowered immunity) Those who are vaccinated will generally have only light or no sympltoms and will then have an even higher level of immunity ....... as for the silly buggers who refused it ........ well that balls in play.
This is my understanding of the whole covid affair. As long as I’m not pushed to have a third jab, no further lockdowns, no more mask rules.. then I’m happy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2021 21:16:31 GMT
The beeb is carrying a video of the "what is it?" PM doing a bit about the vaccine. I might be alone in this but I find him entirely devoid of talent or seriousness. I actually think it's quite a nasty situation that someone like this could be brine minister. I know he does flourish in the company of others and can do predictable humour but when it's a one on one like that video in the hospital he is just incredibly incompetent. Perhaps that is the key. Deliberate aggressive dumbing down. It is very sad if that is what is happening. I would not be surprised but definitely disappointed. Edit to add the news story with embedded video content. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58494842And I was like "omg"
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Post by JohnV on Sept 9, 2021 7:31:59 GMT
Dogless and Patty .... off the top of my head complained about misquotes and I think BFG as well (but that's from memory) and there were certainly others but then you are so cavalier in your attitudes to other people feelings, it's not surprising that you aren't aware of how many peoples toes you have trodden on.
You put your words in others mouths ......... as regards the rest of your rambling and quite nonsensical post, you should start taking notice of the posts from those who are actually here and are telling you that you are talking out of your arse
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2021 7:43:35 GMT
Write to the PM foxy, tell him you have him and his mates sussed...
Yeah!
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