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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2021 9:08:57 GMT
Hate a snitch..
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 6, 2021 9:33:22 GMT
That's interesting and irrefutable proof (if it were needed) that CRT and BW before them keep a close eye on what people use their boats for. I'm not quite sure how one would know if a boat was a 'liveaboard' or not unless being active about watching it. After all it's not in the license / registration form is it. To be fair they do also get this wrong as when one of my boats was on cc2 enforcement a few years ago I had a letter which said "you may need to find somewhere else to live" when in fact the address they sent the letter to was a residential mooring owned by CRT with me as the customer ! They had assumed incorrectly that the boat was a liveaboard. I wonder if it was just because it had quite a lot of clutter on it and looked a bit lived on.. Sorry I probably was not clear, it’s me saying it was a livaboard because two brothers put the top on in the 80’s. It was one of two leasure boats that kept cruising the L&L. Making BWB keep it open. So the previous owners had run ins with the navigation authority which they seem to have continued when I took ownership. I was pointing this out because they have given me no record of this part of the boats life. They must have some files, which proves they haven’t given me all the info they are holding. But surely under GDPR etc CRT only need give you information they hold about the boat since you took ownership? In fact i think it would be illegal for them to give you any information relating to the previous owners.
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Post by kris on Jul 6, 2021 10:07:49 GMT
Sorry I probably was not clear, it’s me saying it was a livaboard because two brothers put the top on in the 80’s. It was one of two leasure boats that kept cruising the L&L. Making BWB keep it open. So the previous owners had run ins with the navigation authority which they seem to have continued when I took ownership. I was pointing this out because they have given me no record of this part of the boats life. They must have some files, which proves they haven’t given me all the info they are holding. But surely under GDPR etc CRT only need give you information they hold about the boat since you took ownership? In fact i think it would be illegal for them to give you any information relating to the previous owners. all names and personal information are redacted on the info they send. So they could send me info on the boat.
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 6, 2021 10:15:38 GMT
But surely under GDPR etc CRT only need give you information they hold about the boat since you took ownership? In fact i think it would be illegal for them to give you any information relating to the previous owners. all names and personal information are redacted on the info they send. So they could send me info on the boat. Could but aren’t required to. And in fact since you know who the previous owners are, the fact that their names are redacted doesn’t make any difference and doesn’t diminish the fact that they would be sending you identifiable information about the activities of the previous owners.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2021 10:24:50 GMT
If the boat had been used as a floating brothel that could get a bit technical.
Definitely worth CRT being careful.
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Post by kris on Jul 6, 2021 10:34:40 GMT
If the boat had been used as a floating brothel that could get a bit technical. Definitely worth CRT being careful. There was a boat on the L@L that was used as something similar.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2021 10:45:57 GMT
If the boat had been used as a floating brothel that could get a bit technical. Definitely worth CRT being careful. There was a boat on the L@L that was used as something similar. There was one on the K&A for a while.
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Post by kris on Jul 6, 2021 10:47:12 GMT
There was a boat on the L@L that was used as something similar. There was one on the K&A for a while. I think it must be Andrew’s new business idea, seen as he’s got so many boats.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2021 10:50:39 GMT
I don't do any businesses but years ago when my mother and I moved onto narrow boats she suggested running a brothel on a boat. It was a bit of a giggle but always stuck with me as actually being quite a good idea !
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Post by thebfg on Jul 6, 2021 12:39:31 GMT
To be fair, I can't see any information they may hold on your boat from before you owned it being your information.
It will be the previous owners data and gdpr would prevent you from receiving it.
In my opinion.
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Post by twbm2 on Jul 6, 2021 13:28:18 GMT
Thing is, a boat isn't a person ergo isn't a data subject for the purposes of GDPR - and if they simply have one record of you that gets updated with previous obsolete info being overwritten, that would be short and indeed show good data management practice.
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Post by JohnV on Jul 6, 2021 14:13:55 GMT
Thing is, a boat isn't a person ergo isn't a data subject for the purposes of GDPR - and if they simply have one record of you that gets updated with previous obsolete info being overwritten, that would be short and indeed show good data management practice. You are not seriously suggesting that CRT have good management practice ? (or do you think it's just random chance ?)
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Post by TonyDunkley on Jul 7, 2021 3:11:53 GMT
Going back to the TonyDunkley NB HD affair it makes me wonder what would happen if it all went to court and CRT wanted to show that the boat was not lived on, as they claim. Where is the evidence? And who is collecting this evidence? All very intriguing. There isn't, and never was, any 'evidence' that I wasn't living aboard "HD" at the time it was unlawfully seized by C&RT, . . although there is a great deal of irrefutable evidence that I WAS living aboard, . . and had done, continuously, since 2010. So-called 'information' to the contrary was passed on to C&RT's boat thieving 'team' by TB's fantasist embezzler bedruthan, . . and as you can imagine, they're none too happy about having been so comprehensively led up the garden path ! The origins of this knowingly fabricated mis-information are a little less certain, . . although there are strong indications that it came via the involvement of someone who's been going out of his way for the last few months to demonstrate that he's just as full of shit as the bodged up wreck of a boat he lives aboard.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Jul 7, 2021 3:14:16 GMT
Going back to the TonyDunkley NB HD affair it makes me wonder what would happen if it all went to court and CRT wanted to show that the boat was not lived on, as they claim. Where is the evidence? And who is collecting this evidence? All very intriguing. Tony pissed his neighbours off so much that one or more has given crt information. You've posted the same vague and unsubstantiated item of gossip previously. Is it something you've invented, . . or are you merely parroting some other equally unreliable and dubious source ? If that is so, . . it's time for you to state openly who or what the source is ! There is also the question from page 4 of this thread you haven't yet answered : -- "On the assumption that you bought a phony, extra-statutory 'Rivers only Licence' - as opposed to the standard (canal) Pleasure Boat Licence, which is the one and only type of Licence that C&RT have powers or authority to issue - and that C&RT is stating in writing that that is all the information it holds in respect of you and the boat, . . what are you hoping to gain by, and what is the point of, attempting to drag anything more out of them ?"
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Post by JohnV on Jul 7, 2021 6:14:31 GMT
You are not seriously suggesting that CRT have good management practice ? (or do you think it's just random chance ?) Interesting to note that because I don't live in the UK at the moment you think I have no right to comment on what goes on in Britain, yet you are not on CRT waters and are therefore not a customer yet you seem happy to criticise them non-stop. neither are you a boater at the moment so maybe you shouldn't be posting on a boaters forum ?
You also forget that I have more than one boat, one of which is a canal boat. on top of that I also travel on other peoples vessels and have regularly been on CRT waters .... much more recently than you
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