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Post by Jim on Aug 8, 2021 10:21:16 GMT
If it wasn't for leisure boats the canal network would have been filled in and built on decades ago, and the fact that you don't understand this simply flags up your complete and total ignorance about the waterways system. Ah, but the majority of the "leisure" boats at that time were not modern sewertubes ..... just look at the pictures from then Pictures are mostly all that's left, they've rotted away.
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Post by JohnV on Aug 8, 2021 10:32:59 GMT
Ah, but the majority of the "leisure" boats at that time were not modern sewertubes ..... just look at the pictures from then Pictures are mostly all that's left, they've rotted away.
admittedly built at the end of that time ...... but Shapfell is over 50 years old and there are many more around, plus a lot of those old ex working boat conversions
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Post by Clinton Cool on Aug 8, 2021 10:46:33 GMT
I blame Gordon Brown for canals filling up. Give the BOE control of interest rates. Bad idea. And mobile phones. Also bad. To be fair to Gordon 'prudence' Brown, he did have some good ideas. For example: 1/ A whacking big increase in road tax for large cars. Fantastic idea. However, as soon as the car industry put pressure on him he capitulated. 2/ 'No more boom and bust' Cracking idea. Unfortunately though, if you want 'no more boom and bust' you should follow your proclamation with fiscal policy aimed at bringing this about, rather than creating a host of new benefits during a time of relative 'boom' that will be unaffordable during the inevitable 'bust'. I say inevitable because going on a spending spree during a time of boom is the very best way of guaranteeing a future 'bust' Prudence Mr Brown, that was what was needed, to achieve your 'no more boom and bust'.
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Post by Jim on Aug 8, 2021 11:09:28 GMT
Pictures are mostly all that's left, they've rotted away.
admittedly built at the end of that timeΒ ...... but Shapfell is over 50 years old and there are many more around, plus a lot of those old ex working boat conversions
One owns me too JohnV , registered in '68, don't know how much older than that it is.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2021 11:59:27 GMT
And no doubt TD prefers a back to back terrace house, with coal fire and an outside privy rather than a centrally heated, indoor plumbed, modern 'so called' house. And he no doubt worked on horse drawn working boats not modern diesel powered 'so called' working boats. You could go on with this Rog ETA Of course I'll resist abusing him ...that sort of thing is more his bailiwick
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2021 12:15:37 GMT
My first memories of pleasure boats was lifeboat conversions, and wooden cruisers none of this modern fibreglass stuff that was for rich people π
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Post by JohnV on Aug 8, 2021 14:53:49 GMT
My first memories of pleasure boats was lifeboat conversions, and wooden cruisers none of this modern fibreglass stuff that was for rich people π When Shapfell was new you could buy a small house in a cheap area for the same amount ........ and she's only 25.5 foot
Price in early 70's was Β£4,250 plus VAT but excluding engine !!! so approx say Β£5,250 all in .... in 1970 average price of a UK house was about Β£4,700 (but 10 years later was more thandouble)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2021 15:13:07 GMT
My first memories of pleasure boats was lifeboat conversions, and wooden cruisers none of this modern fibreglass stuff that was for rich people π When Shapfell was new you could buy a small house in a cheap area for the same amount ........ and she's only 25.5 foot Price in early 70's was Β£4,250Β plus VAT but excluding engine !!! so approx say Β£5,250 all inΒ Β .... in 1970 average price of a UK house was about Β£4,700 (but 10 years later wasΒ more thandouble)
Bought my first boat in 1970 a Campari inflatable can't have been much as I was only earning Β£11 a week replaced that in 1973 with a trailerable Plywood dayboat/cruiser, can't remember how much I paid for it, had that for six years only sunk once when the lockeepers son at Aylesbury drilled a hole in the bottom of it. I did get my revenge π
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2021 15:19:16 GMT
That raises an interesting issue JohnVPeople buy the boat they can afford , suits their requirements , and fits their desired life style. I've never liked the classifying of boats ... narrow boat looks down on grp, shiny boat looks down on scruffy boat, private boat looks down on hire boat, and working boat looks down on EVERYBODY. We all want to enjoy our personal idea of boating in whatever vessel fits the bill. The costs involved shouldn't be a factor to anyone but the purchaser, and neither should the age or style. Rog
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2021 15:33:06 GMT
Crikey that is a lot of wankers. Any suggestions for the collective term? Given that the masturbating hordes, . . and all their awful boats, . . effectively spelled the end of the English canals and river navigations as I had known, lived and worked on them for most of my life, . . . I think a 'nemesis' [of wankers] would serve as a rather apt collective noun. I thought perhaps a Climax of wankers. Do your wooden boats exist outside of your imagination?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2021 16:02:05 GMT
I think I saw one in Henley just earlier.
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Post by Jim on Aug 8, 2021 16:03:52 GMT
I think I saw one in Henley just earlier. which? Wooden boat or...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2021 16:06:04 GMT
Firewood boat. The intriguing thing about TonyDunkley's comment about owning a couple of wooden pleasure craft is that previously he has used the rather delicious description of "carefully arranged firewood" to eulogise about wooden craft.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2021 16:10:35 GMT
Sorry @a .., that was vomit inducing and will no doubt incur the wrath (not to mention the abuse) of the Dunk
You have been warned innit.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2021 16:26:03 GMT
I like a bit of vomit-inducing behaviour of an afternoon. It's good for overall health.
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