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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2021 20:11:17 GMT
Fair enough. It was a bit of a jog but I think worth it. I think it would have been. Looks decent. I'm still undecided on electric or petrol, far too many decisions. If I go petrol I will probably live to regret it but at least I know its gone to a decent home. It depends on where you go boating, IMO. If you like short trips on non-tidal water I could see an electric item working well. There's still one key advantage to the petrol variety over them new-fangled things - the time it takes to re-fill the fuel tank.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2021 20:13:04 GMT
Electric outboards are hassle if they have a separate battery. It's something I hear all the time from people.
Clip on battery electric outboards are expensive and in a lot of cases they do marketing tricks and you get a disposable product. Things like having floating batteries because they use pouch cells which won't last as long and are less durable than cylindrical cells.
Good for marketing. Create a problem them solve it. Or just don't drop the battery in!
My Aquamot (I actually have two of them probably the only two in the UK) arrr really good items but some quality control issues such as the voltmeter not being waterproof which would normally cause customer returns. I just sikaflexed a plastic board over it. Proper quality pods large motors and standard NMC lithium batteries same as an ebike 48v battery. Not tied to the manufacturer for batteries.
Also not cheap at £1000 for a 2hp equivalent motor. 1.1kw with 2 X 640wh batteries. UK distributor no longer doing them as too much agro.
I was annoyed to miss the £30 Torqeedo on eBay a while back. That would have been interesting. A £1000 product reduced to £30. Hmm.
You could do worse than one of those lovely little 2hp Yamaha/Mariner outboards. Nice and light they are.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2021 20:18:36 GMT
You could do worse than one of those lovely little 2hp Yamaha/Mariner outboards. Nice and light they are. They seem to be the most popular choice for a tender. And allegedly Japanese, although the one my brother has uses a cheap (and nasty?) carb which is stamped THAI...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2021 20:22:05 GMT
I was given a lovely little Suzuki 2 years ago again by a lock keeper. needed a new coil I should have sorted that it was a lovely unit but ended up selling it for £20.
One can have too many outboards specially when ones only storage is aboard boats.
I've done well with the electric for the summer but once the River starts moving later in the year I'm sure the dinosaur oil outboard will be going back on the dinghy and I'll love the smell of two stroke oil in the morning !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2021 20:26:53 GMT
I got a seagull.The best use for it is as a mud weight. Much prefer the little 2HP Honda.You can keep your electric outboard, especially in an inflatable boat.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2021 20:27:37 GMT
I'll love the smell of two stroke oil in the morning ! If TCW3 is as bio-degradable as is claimed then a 2-stroke is more environmentally friendly than the 4-stroke. And yes the smell is quite nostalgic for some of us.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2021 20:31:19 GMT
I got a seagull.The best use for it is as a mud weight. Harsh.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2021 20:35:47 GMT
....But true
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2021 20:39:22 GMT
Actually they are not really heavy enough to be used as a mud anchor.
Possibly ok for rocky sites but it won't really sink in properly in mud.
Honda 2. The clutch one with no water cooling or the lovely unclutched one with the water cooling up to bottom of power unit for exhaust cooling?
I've got the latter and it's a lovely little unit.
The other ones are a bit noisy and I also think introducing a centrifugal clutch was a marketing thing and adds extra problems.
Pull the cord and it goes seems better, or a proper dog clutch.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2021 20:40:47 GMT
Does yours have a magneto ignition by any chance?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2021 20:48:04 GMT
Actually they are not really heavy enough to be used as a mud anchor. Possibly ok for rocky sites but it won't really sink in properly in mud. Honda 2. The clutch one with no water cooling or the lovely unclutched one with the water cooling up to bottom of power unit for exhaust cooling? I've got the latter and it's a lovely little unit. The other ones are a bit noisy and I also think introducing a centrifugal clutch was a marketing thing and adds extra problems. Pull the cord and it goes seems better, or a proper dog clutch. Honda Bf2 a watercooled. 24 years old, only let down by the carb which a cheap lawnmower replacement will happily run as a workaround.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2021 20:50:37 GMT
Does yours have a magneto ignition by any chance? I cant remember. I gave up on it. It lies unloved in the engine room waiting for the honda to pack up before I need to revisit it. I seem to recall it has a wipac ignition, but may be wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2021 20:52:36 GMT
@rusty69.;
Mine is also a 1997 unit.
I've had three of them. One I left with a "friend" for storage and it disappeared another was stolen off my dinghy and the final survivor lives under my bed on Dulcinea.
They are seriously nice units I have never had a carb problem other than the bowls getting shitted up from rusting inside.
I carry spare carb bowls in a little box for this.
ETA being slightly technical I always thought it was a warercooled unit until I took one apart and discovered that it isn't. The water just goes up to the base of the powerhead and back down. There is no block cooling in them and it is a finned air cooled head.
The exhaust is the critical area so pumping water onto this for heat rejection is a good strategy and does make the unit slightly quieter but not as quiet as a fully water cooled motor.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2021 20:59:43 GMT
@rusty69 .; Mine is also a 1997 unit. I've had three of them. One I left with a "friend" for storage and it disappeared another was stolen off my dinghy and the final survivor lives under my bed on Dulcinea. They are seriously nice units I have never had a carb problem other than the bowls getting shitted up from rusting inside. I carry spare carb bowls in a little box for this. The bowl on mine is rusty. They need to be drained each winter or the jets clog up, but even so, mine has had at least 2 replacement carbs in my ownership. Everything else on it is bullet proof. Long live the honda. I love the idea of the seagull, and see a lot of 'enthusiasts' tinkering with them. I saw a guy with one with a recall thingy on the other week, and was a tad jealous that he was so confident it would start, he let his dinghy go from his yacht in the tideway before starting it. He did this a number if times sure that the thing wouldn't let him down.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2021 21:08:40 GMT
Honda are pretty good. They also did some nice diesel generators. I think for thebfg it's looking like a light weight 2 smoke outboard or possible a Honda depending on the budget. Inflatables are a bit ugly through the water so as I did mention earlier unless you are just idling and there is no wind you do really need a bit of power and you won't get much from a small trolling motor. Of course the potential for interesting adventures trying to get back could be a factor but if safety is the name of the game and there is any risk of getting caught out then a petrol outboard and a canal of said petrol is the way to proceed.
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