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Post by faffer on Oct 26, 2016 18:54:00 GMT
Bloody hell, it's like back to the future This is going to take some time, so a time machine may well help kida.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2016 19:00:06 GMT
Bloody hell, it's like back to the future This is going to take some time, so a time machine may well help kida. I could do with one to find them rollers I've got to go delving in the shed, it will be like a bastard cross between Alice in wonderland and Narnia! When I find em I'll give you a shout, I was going to use them as side rollers, will let you know what size they are and go from there.
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Post by faffer on Oct 26, 2016 19:13:05 GMT
This is going to take some time, so a time machine may well help kida. I could do with one to find them rollers I've got to go delving in the shed, it will be like a bastard cross between Alice in wonderland and Narnia! When I find em I'll give you a shout, I was going to use them as side rollers, will let you know what size they are and go from there. No probs if you cant find them kida, i have these and 3 sets of dual roller now. Speaking of sheds i should of cleared mine out this week, but other things have needed to be done
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2016 19:17:03 GMT
I meant to say ages ago. Remember Rachael being worried about weight? As you know, she's miles out. Several Fairline 19+20's had Ford Watermotas on Enfield legs, just like this one. I was chatting ti someone that had one the other day, it went like shit off a shovel by all accounts! My brother had one with a 9.9 outboard that went well, shit off a shovel would be stretching it though! www.bymnews.com/photos/displayimage.php?album=99&pos=171How this was nearly 10 years ago I don't know! The boat on that Link sold for not a lot of money a couple of years ago on a cracking roller trailer.
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Post by faffer on Oct 26, 2016 19:25:11 GMT
Rach reckons it will weigh near 2.5t if not more, but i know the dry weight of these is 1100 kg, yep i have beefed it up a bit and have a 30hp, still the outboard should weight less than an inboard, but still i reckon it will be under 2t.
Thats a nice Fairline, didnt think the watermotas had that much grunt to be like shit of a shovel.
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Post by Gibbo on Oct 26, 2016 19:28:19 GMT
I'm a bit confused by this "shit off a shovel" description. To get that on an 1100kg boat we used to fit two (yes two) 220 horse outboards. These 30hp engines are for running bilge pumps
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2016 19:30:23 GMT
The original was the old Anglia 105e engine, the later 1600cc crossflow had plenty of woosh in it!
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Post by faffer on Oct 26, 2016 19:30:43 GMT
I'm a bit confused by this "shit off a shovel" description. To get that on an 1100kg boat we used to fit two (yes two) 220 horse outboards. These 30hp engines are for running bilge pumps lol, we are talking about another boat, a fairline, not my cruiser. i am getting a 30hp outnpard for that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2016 19:33:18 GMT
I'm a bit confused by this "shit off a shovel" description. To get that on an 1100kg boat we used to fit two (yes two) 220 horse outboards. These 30hp engines are for running bilge pumps It's all relative isn't it? 30bhp in a sewer tube isn't the same as on the back of a 20' GRP boat. 440bhp however, now you're talking! The curtain twitching slow down brigade that ALWAYS have a boiling pan on the stove won't agree though.
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Post by Gibbo on Oct 26, 2016 19:36:26 GMT
It was, of course, a joke. But true nonetheless. Taking that boat on the Ashton Canal and trying full power (to test the engines) I could see the fish flapping around on the mud behind us
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Post by faffer on Oct 26, 2016 19:37:22 GMT
A quicky of what i have done to the boat. I used perspex again, as i had it lying around and trying to hold back on pennies, like £20 on a sheet of wood lol. I know it looks a bodge up but have a bit of faith it will be fine when done wink.png You can just see i have blued it, two coats is plenty. I laminated four of the 450grm again to give the 6mm thickness but around the edge another two, so six in all. This i left overnight then came the time to pray i dont break the perspex as i want this for the other side, i can get heavy handed at times and break things, all went good though, a hose pipe and a wedge and wiggle and it came free easy. image: i.imgur.com/S2mrxVN.jpg trimmed back a little needs more when ready to do the rest and other side.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2016 19:39:48 GMT
It was, of course, a joke. But true nonetheless. Taking that boat on the Ashton Canal and trying full power (to test the engines) I could see the fish flapping around on the mud behind us My friends have a Carrera with a KAD 32 in it, it will overtop the bank full tilt in 8' of water
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Post by PaulG2 on Oct 27, 2016 3:43:28 GMT
You're doing very good looking work there, Faffer. It looks really nice.
My first boat was an 18' wood Birchcraft cabin cruiser with a 35 h.p. Evinrude outboard. It was woefully under powered. I would think that with your boat a small 75 h.p. inboard with an outdrive would produce much better results, and make your boat exponentially more versatile because of the electricity you could produce. A small inboard would give you a lot more deck space in the cockpit too.
Have you done much boating on the ocean? Weather can come up in the blink of an eye and, when things start looking like it may be getting rough, in a small boat like yours you want to be able to get back to port as quickly as possible.
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Post by faffer on Oct 28, 2016 19:25:53 GMT
You're doing very good looking work there, Faffer. It looks really nice. My first boat was an 18' wood Birchcraft cabin cruiser with a 35 h.p. Evinrude outboard. It was woefully under powered. I would think that with your boat a small 75 h.p. inboard with an outdrive would produce much better results, and make your boat exponentially more versatile because of the electricity you could produce. A small inboard would give you a lot more deck space in the cockpit too. Have you done much boating on the ocean? Weather can come up in the blink of an eye and, when things start looking like it may be getting rough, in a small boat like yours you want to be able to get back to port as quickly as possible. How many knotts did you get from it, i am not expecting much more than 15, at a real push 20. I am afraind it has already been built for an outboard, main reason was the weight, this will be trailered often i hope. update, andi contemplating to show the product from now and update as i go, if anyone wants to ask any questions they are welcome to as to how and what i did to it. But for now the next bit Now that was a week or so ago, in the last few days i have started to make the cabin door, i was wanting to go with solid wood, Sapele, a great affordable hardwood with good looks, the infact as the rubbing strakes i have made. Only trouble is that the bulkhead is slightly out of square so it would be a faff and look odd, to me anyway, so the choice was to go with a GRP door, which is a small benefit from it being also insulated, i have made it from 25mm PU foam sheet. This way i can make it so it takes on the off set of the frame and look no different. The door frame has a raised edge as can be seen here. What i did was to press the board onto the raised edge to get a mark where i need to cut the grove i need for the door to sit into. Once marked out i used a straight edge and a 12mm drill to cut out the grove, not all the way but to about 10mm deep at most, it is easy to control if the drill is held at an angle of 45 deg ~. Once done all around i used my finger then a wood chisel to give a nice shape, doing it bit by bit to the depth needed. To hold the board down while i laminate the first two i screwed a few battons inside so i can screw the board down, So next step was to lay another three layers of the same 650grm matt and a final tissue to help smooth out, Catch up on the door i am making. I fettled the inner side of the door, another 3 laminations of the 650grm combo matt and surface tissue, Oh yes, but before that i shaved back the edge so it still fits in the door aperture. As once all laminated up it will be around a 12mm added to the width. Then i added some 18mm thick timber for the roller dead locks to fit to. Although i am now only fitting one rooler dead lock to the lower half and a twin shoot bolt to the top so as better security as this is hinged on the top and will also hold down the loer panel, you will see These are the hinges i have used, they are UPVC door hinges, just need to snap of the small locating tabs and carefully mark them in place, difficult part is that the hinge bolt holes are behind the pins so you need to mark the holes before you put the pins in. I like them as they are strong and slimline. I have fitted them temp with wood screws and once ready i will use M5 SS screws. So door in place and cutting in half and roughly inplace., it is nice and solid now with the inner side laminated.
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Post by chimneychain on Oct 28, 2016 19:37:38 GMT
Really glad your here. Love your boat updates, your a real craftsmans.
Darren
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