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Post by faffer on Jul 1, 2018 14:39:04 GMT
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Post by faffer on Jul 1, 2018 14:41:30 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 12:47:52 GMT
This little dutch barge was for sale for over £100k for a long time because it had a transferable central London residential mooring. Now for sale without the mooring. I always liked it. It's a nice small good looking dutch barge. barges.apolloduck.co.uk/boat.phtml?id=571973
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Post by bargemast on Jul 2, 2018 14:47:50 GMT
This little dutch barge was for sale for over £100k for a long time because it had a transferable central London residential mooring. Now for sale without the mooring. I always liked it. It's a nice small good looking dutch barge. barges.apolloduck.co.uk/boat.phtml?id=571973The £ 40.000 they're asking now sounds already a bit more realistic, although a lovely lined little barge like that with a DAF 575 isn't interesting.
When they were built they would have had 15 to 40 HP which was more than enough, see on the video how nicely this boat glides through the water, what do you want to do with a big engine that never has to work and will always smoke and glaze it's bores.
I've had quite a few DAF engines in my barges, and in the boat I'm living on there are 2 of them installed, they are very reliable engines (built under Leyland patent) but always smoke if they don't have to work hard enough.
At the moment my 2 DAF's don't smoke, but that's only because they're not running, I'm a non-smoker and would love my engine to be the same.
Of course as usual, I'm not in the market for another boat, but if I would buy a boat like this one, the first thing I would do is getting rid of that smokey DAF, and replace it with a lot less powerful single- or twin cylinder engine that will have to do a bit of work to move the boat.
Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 18:02:43 GMT
Agreed.
I think this particular boat could end up being a bargain for someone because I'm pretty sure it was bought purely to free up the mooring for a larger "all singing all dancing" residential boat. The mooring is in Islington N1, offside private pontoon with all services.
If, and I'm not saying its definitely the case, the boat has been bought in order to replace it with a larger vessel then it could be a hot potato. 3ft + draught on the regents and grand union is quite annoying. I remember this barge from about 20 years ago used and lived on and always moving about on the Thames including the tideway. This may explain the large engine.
Its a good boat but maybe not £40k.
Of course it may be that nobody was willing to buy it with the mooring but something tells me next time I pass it in a few weeks time it will be gone and there will be a 70ft x 13ft houseboat on that mooring.
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Post by faffer on Jul 2, 2018 18:17:42 GMT
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Post by faffer on Jul 2, 2018 18:25:18 GMT
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Post by bargemast on Jul 2, 2018 18:47:44 GMT
Agreed. I think this particular boat could end up being a bargain for someone because I'm pretty sure it was bought purely to free up the mooring for a larger "all singing all dancing" residential boat. The mooring is in Islington N1, offside private pontoon with all services. If, and I'm not saying its definitely the case, the boat has been bought in order to replace it with a larger vessel then it could be a hot potato. 3ft + draught on the regents and grand union is quite annoying. I remember this barge from about 20 years ago used and lived on and always moving about on the Thames including the tideway. This may explain the large engine. Its a good boat but maybe not £40k. Of course it may be that nobody was willing to buy it with the mooring but something tells me next time I pass it in a few weeks time it will be gone and there will be a 70ft x 13ft houseboat on that mooring. The only thing that explanes the very much overpowered engine is that this boat came from the Netherlands, were they all had their nice old engines replaced at some time by a very popular engine that were cheap reliable and available in huge quantities named DAF, the 475 and 575 engines were the most commonly used replacements.
I'm pretty sure that that is the one and only reason why there's a DAF in this boat, when your back in the UK, you'll be close to this boat, so if you want to know if I'm talking BS you can ask the sellers about it's history.
Peter.
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Post by bargemast on Jul 2, 2018 18:50:39 GMT
I do like this one best Wayne, as it's a steel boat by the looks of it, and because of that easier to rebuild than a wooden boat of that size.
For you, you may prefer a wooden one, as you like to play with wood.
I like wood too, but only for the interior.
Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 18:52:41 GMT
MFV looks nice. I know a very similar boat. Scarily similar. I remember it when it was in mint condition about 15 years ago. Lovely boat. Now extremely shagged. Wooden boats. Gotta love 'em This is the one I remember looking stunning some years ago. www.apolloduck.co.uk/boat.phtml?id=55844715-20 years. Of course it could be the hull side portholes which killed it. But more likely a Larch on oak Scottish MFV left alone for too long Wonderful boats but they need looking after.
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Post by bargemast on Jul 2, 2018 19:20:45 GMT
I was looking for an example of a nicely shaped Luxemotor barge, that still has an old engine, like I wrote in a previous message that barges like this "Kitty Hough" that used to have a single or twin cylinder engine of between 15 and 40 HP, well I found one, a very beautiful one that I've seen many time in real life too. This barge still has the single cylinder BRONS engine of 25 HP that was installed when new in 1925, and is still running, not on the tideway, but he's been down to the Canal du Midi a couple of times, and came back up the Rhône, I have to admit that he couldn't pull waterskies on his way up, but he got there. Here you can see a photo of this barge www.maritiemmuseum.nl/activiteiten/gastschip-damsterdiepand here's a video of the barge a a few shots of the 25 HP BRONS engine that's a real beauty and a pleasure to eyes and ears Peter.
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Post by faffer on Jul 3, 2018 2:31:09 GMT
I do like the steel (?) one an dwould go for steel ove rwood really if the correct one came up at the correct price when i have the funds.
I have that 45` MFV Apollo Duck boat boat ah snow gone, i have been watching that for sometime now. Tried to get done just to mooch around it and see what its like for the money to get an idea what i would be looking at. Good price by the look of it.
Yes i do love wood, so much more character and feel of a real boat if yo know what i mean.
For the life of me i cant remember what that 40 odd foot GRP MFV grand banks type one was i found over in France for £11k i think it was up at. going to keep an eye for another and have a search. It was very much like the red one above just GRP.
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Post by kris on Jul 4, 2018 7:09:18 GMT
This looks ideal for cc'ers in London its powered by electric motors. I can imagine the capitals waterways with a couple of hundred of these added to the mix www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283009200824
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 7:27:05 GMT
£100k for a 27x14ft houseboat ?? What ? FORTUNATELY they are a no-go on the cut due to bridges I quite like the idea of an electric houseboat for the Thames but I would like to base it on a steel punt. Something like this would be my ideal retirement home MST marine services have an old 35x10ft riveted steel punt which would be ideal but they don't want to sell it.
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Post by kris on Jul 4, 2018 7:41:06 GMT
But £100,000 is cheap compared to the price of a flat. Ps the height is a good thing, just drop it in on your favoured section between two bridges. Then claim you can't move very far. Bingo a cheap central London flat.
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