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Post by JohnV on Mar 17, 2019 15:27:48 GMT
Would be a fun trip from there, across Ireland to Dublin and by that time you would have found anything that was worrying for the sea passage . Then coastal North to either Bangor or Larne then shortest across to Stranraer then Crinan canal, Caledonian canal and south down the coast to the Humber Sounds like a fun trip which you definitely havenβt put any thought into π A better prospect in something old and well used with a pair of engines - youβd be unlucky to loose both! Dammit Dammit Dammit just realised I have joined two adverts together the first was in Scotlland !!! not Ireland .... it was this one that had me thinking about an Irish trip www.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/polaris-delta-33/598706 DOH !!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2019 8:17:24 GMT
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Post by JohnV on Mar 18, 2019 8:29:10 GMT
20K sound remarkably cheap ..... too cheap in fact.
Would have thought a bare hull in half way decent nick but needing some work would be at least 30K
At 20K sounds to me that she might just be one short step from a scrapper
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Post by kris on Mar 18, 2019 8:34:04 GMT
The broker does say the hull needs attention , which probably means it's knackered.
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Post by JohnV on Mar 18, 2019 8:39:48 GMT
the scrappers offer very little for old boats .... especially if they are fitted out or partly fitted out. The cost and aggro of getting rid of possibly contaminated rubbish puts them off
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Post by kris on Mar 18, 2019 8:46:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2019 8:56:39 GMT
Very pretty hull shame about the boxy cabin. Interesting boat.
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Post by kris on Mar 18, 2019 9:07:53 GMT
Yes the front does look really ugly.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2019 18:26:14 GMT
Although this boat came from the same yard as both of my steel boats I really don't like it. www.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/pickwell-amp-arnold-54/598199Was at T&K marina on Thames a while back for about Β£70k seems to be asking double that now. Interesting but not one of Pick well and Arnold's finest examples in my opinion. I believe the rather odd bow section is similar to that used on the Peter Nicholls FCN seagoing barges. One for peter bargemast to comment on
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Post by bargemast on Mar 28, 2019 19:22:09 GMT
Although this boat came from the same yard as both of my steel boats I really don't like it. www.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/pickwell-amp-arnold-54/598199Was at T&K marina on Thames a while back for about Β£70k seems to be asking double that now. Interesting but not one of Pick well and Arnold's finest examples in my opinion. I believe the rather odd bow section is similar to that used on the Peter Nicholls FCN seagoing barges. One for peter bargemast to comment on I have to agree with you, this isn't a good example of a Pickell & Arnold boat, it was surely made as a trip boat with all these windows, or for someone that was worried to become claustophobic inside a boat. Only if I keep my eyes closed I see a resemblance with one of the FCN barges of which you can see an example here : tucker-designs.com/product/oberon-56/ The angle of the stem is the only thing that looks more or less the same (eyes open) Peter.
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Post by kris on Mar 28, 2019 19:28:53 GMT
Although this boat came from the same yard as both of my steel boats I really don't like it. www.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/pickwell-amp-arnold-54/598199Was at T&K marina on Thames a while back for about Β£70k seems to be asking double that now. Interesting but not one of Pick well and Arnold's finest examples in my opinion. I believe the rather odd bow section is similar to that used on the Peter Nicholls FCN seagoing barges. One for peter bargemast to comment on All boat yards turn out a turkey now and again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2019 20:01:12 GMT
Although this boat came from the same yard as both of my steel boats I really don't like it. www.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/pickwell-amp-arnold-54/598199Was at T&K marina on Thames a while back for about Β£70k seems to be asking double that now. Interesting but not one of Pick well and Arnold's finest examples in my opinion. I believe the rather odd bow section is similar to that used on the Peter Nicholls FCN seagoing barges. One for peter bargemast to comment on I have to agree with you, this isn't a good example of a Pickell & Arnold boat, it was surely made as a trip boat with all these windows, or for someone that was worried to become claustophobic inside a boat. Only if I keep my eyes closed I see a resemblance with one of the FCN barges of which you can see an example here : tucker-designs.com/product/oberon-56/Β Β The angle of the stem is the only thing that looks more or less the same (eyes open) Peter. I was interested because Tony Tucker was the naval architect involved in the design of the boat in the link Is the "Oberon" the same as the FCN. The FCN has a separately made bow section rather than the plating being brought all the way up to the stem post. This is supposed to give the boat extra strength. The P&A boat while looking different and quite ugly is obviously the same basic design. Same basic design differently executed. Eta although to be fair the P&A boat appears to have a stem post whereas the Peter Nicholls boat clearly doesn't. So maybe they are not the same but I still think they are similar in some ways. Both boats are designed to have wetted base plates for example.
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Post by bargemast on Mar 29, 2019 6:50:07 GMT
I have to agree with you, this isn't a good example of a Pickell & Arnold boat, it was surely made as a trip boat with all these windows, or for someone that was worried to become claustophobic inside a boat. Only if I keep my eyes closed I see a resemblance with one of the FCN barges of which you can see an example here : tucker-designs.com/product/oberon-56/ The angle of the stem is the only thing that looks more or less the same (eyes open) Peter. I was interested because Tony Tucker was the naval architect involved in the design of the boat in the link Is the "Oberon" the same as the FCN. The FCN has a separately made bow section rather than the plating being brought all the way up to the stem post. This is supposed to give the boat extra strength. The P&A boat while looking different and quite ugly is obviously the same basic design. Same basic design differently executed. Eta although to be fair the P&A boat appears to have a stem post whereas the Peter Nicholls boat clearly doesn't. So maybe they are not the same but I still think they are similar in some ways.
Both boats are designed to have wetted base plates for example. The OBERON is indeed an FCN barge type designed by Tony Tucker, that's why I put his link up. Several of his other barge designs have been /and are built at RW Davis & Son Ltd. in Gloucester. There are quite a few similarities between these 2 boats, of which the most important one is that they both float . Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 10:12:01 GMT
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Post by kris on Apr 2, 2019 10:36:12 GMT
More authentic as a historic boat than most of the jossers and gucci boats about. That really would be like lving in a coffin, wth those tiny portholes.
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