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Post by Aloysius on May 18, 2023 20:27:19 GMT
They do say the ebay price is just for listing purposes, although it's valued for insurance @ £75K... makes you wonder what they consider a sensible offer to be on the basis they mainly want shot of it permanently...and it's dodgy taking it to sea as is but you can't lift it out of the water there....hmm. £0.00?
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Post by on May 18, 2023 20:43:40 GMT
Negative value.
Other than the fact it is a life expired larch on oak MFV the rest of it is amazing.
Check out the plumbing on that engine. Lots of butt weld stainless fittings. Someone has really gone to a lot of effort with this but they clearly didn't understand that these boats were never built for a long lifespan.
There will be some survivors in the hands of hard core fusiasts but this type of boat is basically a sinker and it doesn't matter how good the equipment on board is if the hull is doomed due to basic ageing problems.
That engine really is nice but not the sort of thing anyone would want for any other use.
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Post by kris on May 19, 2023 5:04:53 GMT
Negative value. Other than the fact it is a life expired larch on oak MFV the rest of it is amazing. Check out the plumbing on that engine. Lots of butt weld stainless fittings. Someone has really gone to a lot of effort with this but they clearly didn't understand that these boats were never built for a long lifespan. There will be some survivors in the hands of hard core fusiasts but this type of boat is basically a sinker and it doesn't matter how good the equipment on board is if the hull is doomed due to basic ageing problems. That engine really is nice but not the sort of thing anyone would want for any other use. what engine is it? I don’t reconise it.
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Post by on May 19, 2023 5:51:04 GMT
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Post by on May 19, 2023 6:00:47 GMT
everythingaboutboats.org/abc-diesel/"Two prototype medium-speed engines, a 2-cylinder and a 3-cylinder engine were available at the end of the war (ww2). They were built in trawlers, the ideal test for an engine, as nowhere else such severe working conditions were encountered. The new engines, 4-stroke single acting, developed during the war under the code name DU (Diesel Universal) are the base for many designs and concepts of ABC engines later on." That engine wants to be in a museum but one suspects it may end up as scrap.
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Post by kris on May 19, 2023 7:18:14 GMT
Ah, that’s why I didn’t recognise it, I haven’t seen one before.
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Post by on May 19, 2023 13:39:50 GMT
Its actually a really nice unit. They make much bigger marine engines.
The video is worth watching.
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Post by Aloysius on May 20, 2023 17:40:10 GMT
Maybe the people working on the wreck of the Llys Helig would be interested in it.
ETA it seems that, after seeking the opinions of many people, the vast majority of whom were either marine architects or had a wealth of direct experience of fixing up old boats, to sensibly proceed with the rebuild. Hoorah!
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Post by on May 20, 2023 17:47:02 GMT
It did occur to me that as it seems to be a furrin boat it might be oak on oak rather than larch.
This could present a very mirthful firewood opportunity. Larch burns too fast.
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Post by kris on May 31, 2023 11:32:34 GMT
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Post by Jim on May 31, 2023 14:03:32 GMT
Looks like Stanley Ferry yard won't let him do his own welding. Probably asking for PLI or similar, perhaps he won't pay for them to weld it up. Heading to Wakefield tomorrow, but not going that far till next week.
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Post by kris on May 31, 2023 14:07:19 GMT
Looks like Stanley Ferry yard won't let him do his own welding. Probably asking for PLI or similar, perhaps he won't pay for them to weld it up. Heading to Wakefield tomorrow, but not going that far till next week. Or that’s an excuse to get rid. If the bottom needs doing then you can bet there is some on the sides to do.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 18, 2023 6:45:05 GMT
New in 1964 to a chap who sailed it on Ullswater in the lake district. Then about 40 years ago purchased from him by my late Father in Law, who used the boat on the rivers and canals all over England and Wales. The reason it is in such nice condition is because it is only 16 foot long and so fits in a domestic garage and has always been under cover apart from when on the water. 2 berth, original gas stove, slide out sink and porta loo. 3 gas mantle lights that have heat sinks and so also keep the boat toasty warm Side screens and removable canopy and the rear section of the roof slides open. Made by Brooklands Aviation, an aircraft manufacturer who diversified into boat building after the war. The original noisy 2 stroke Evinrude engine has been replaced with a quiet 4 stroke Honda. This is an enthusiasts craft, if you want to throw it in the water and forget about it then you need a plastic boat. This needs love and it will give you love back, the feel of being inside with the gas lamps glowing, surrounded by wood, brass and velvet at sunset on the water is an experience of a lifetime. I can't remember seeing anything like this for decades. Wood boats stopped being made about 1970 when everyone went fibreglass. Most wooden boats had rotted away by the 80's so this is special! Not been used for about 6 years do to his ill health so it is time to let go and move on. Anyone who doesn't think this boat is worth six grand, the price of a very used Ford motor car, please move on as it's probably not for you. Blackburn Lancashire. 07711 685242 (zero seven seven one one six eight five two four two)
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Post by on Jun 18, 2023 6:53:09 GMT
Wicked.
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Post by dogless on Jun 18, 2023 7:12:22 GMT
That is fabulous.
Rog
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